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> **SUPERSEDED 2026-08-17.** The Frank redo retired this topology.
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> See [frank-redo-2026-08-17.md](frank-redo-2026-08-17.md) and
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> [deployment.md](deployment.md) for the active configuration.
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# Qwen3.8-27B Speculative-Decoding Matrix
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This page records the speculative-decoding benchmark history and the
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production tuning for the Qwen3.8-27B service (`frank-large`),
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now a pipeline-parallel head with a Dankserver worker.
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## Production state (2026-08-17: Q6_K, q8_0/f16 KV, split 0.68)
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Current production, verified against the live process and journal
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(2026-08-17, load 02:06 + smoke tests). Topology detail:
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[[Pipeline Parallelism/Qwen3.8 PP Deployment]].
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- Devices: `RPC0` (Dankserver RTX 3090) + `ROCm0` (Strix iGPU). The head
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passes no `--device` flag. Default selection puts RPC first and picks
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ROCm for the iGPU (HIP registers before Vulkan). The Vulkan0 side stays
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an option via `HEAD_BIN=.../build-vulkan-rpc`.
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- Model: `Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-Q6_K.gguf` (JonathanColetti, 22.43 GB,
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imatrix, 65 blocks, 866 tensors, NO bundled MTP head). The repo's
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standalone draft sidecar `Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-draft-Q8_0.gguf`
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(3.16 GB) is loaded via `--spec-draft-model`; it runs on ROCm0 only
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(1718 MiB, zero worker impact).
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- Spec: **MTP** (standalone draft) `--spec-draft-n-max 4` + the
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`--spec-default` ngram-mod fallback (48/64/24). Measured acceptance
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0.83 then 0.75, mean len 4.0-4.3, per-position ~0.86/0.71/0.71/0.71 —
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stronger than the old bundled head (0.739/0.554/0.427/0.340).
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- KV: K **q8_0** + V **f16** (mismatched). 3136 B/token per FA layer =
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784 MiB at 262144 (K 1088 + V 2048). RPC0 8624 MiB (11 FA), ROCm0
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3920 MiB (5 FA); total 12544 = 16 x 784. **Flash Attention stays
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enabled with the mismatch** (`resolve_fused_ops: Flash Attention
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enabled`) via the GGML_CUDA_FA_ALL_QUANTS rebuild of both binaries
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at 9b05354ec — see the PP doc.
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- Split: `--tensor-split 0.68,0.32` = 45 of 65 blocks (0-44) on the
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3090, 69% of the layer weight. The maximum: 46 blocks -> ~0.3 GiB
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margin; 48 blocks (f >= 0.7197) adds FA block 47 -> KV 9408 -> OOM by
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~0.85 GiB. Boundary math: the PP doc.
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- Context: pool 262144, 1 slot, `n_ctx_slot = 262144`. The pi
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`models.json` declares 262144 (contextWindow = maxTokens, house
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convention).
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- Worker steady state: 23854/24576 MiB used on the 3090, ~273 MiB free
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(tight but stable; all allocations happen at load).
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- Batch 8192 / ubatch 256, `--direct-io`, `--fit off`,
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`--gpu-layers all`.
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## How MTP works on Qwen3.8 (bundled-head era)
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The unsloth `UD-*` GGUFs keep the MTP (Multi-Token Prediction) head inside
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the model file. llama.cpp b10411+ auto-detects it and creates the draft
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context from the target model. Do not pass `--spec-draft-model` for those
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files. This is superseded: the production `Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-Q6_K.gguf`
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has NO bundled head, and the serve script passes the standalone draft
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sidecar with `--spec-draft-model` (see Production state above).
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The stock llama.cpp build must be b10411 or newer. The 2026-08-14 rebuild
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on Dankclaw is b10433 (`9b05354ec`) with `GGML_HIP` + `gfx1151` + Vulkan.
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## History (superseded configurations, 2026-08-14 to 08-16)
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All superseded configs used `Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q8_K_XL.gguf` (29.29 GiB,
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bundled MTP) before the Q6_K swap. The ngram-mod preset survives as the
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fallback layer under MTP. The Vulkan0 verdict from this era applies to the
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standalone configuration only; the PP head runs ROCm0.
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- **2026-08-14: bundled MTP** — `draft-mtp`, n_max 5, parallel 2, ctx
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524288 (2 x 262144). ~13.3 t/s single, ~8 t/s per slot under 2
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concurrent streams. No premature stop.
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- **2026-08-15: DSpark sidecar** — `magnitudedev/Qwen3.8-27B-DSpark-GGUF`
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(Q8_0, 1.36B, block_size 7), n_max 7, PARALLEL=1. Two concurrent 16k
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prose prompts crashed the ROCm backend with `ROCm error: an illegal
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memory access` in `common_speculative_impl_draft_dflash::draft` (status
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6/ABRT, systemd restart, ~503 during reload). DSpark reuses the DFlash
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block-diffusion machinery, which shares one draft context across
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parallel slots; concurrent block drafting faults in HIP stream sync.
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This is the same multi-slot bug class that retired `draft-dflash`
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(premature EOS). The crash shows on 16k concurrent streams, not on a
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67k pair — concurrency is the trigger, not size. Fix: PARALLEL=1
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(requests queue safely). Retired the same day.
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- **2026-08-15 to 08-16: `--spec-default` (ngram-mod), Vulkan0** — n_match
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24 / n_min 48 / n_max 64, draftless, PARALLEL=2 (2 x 32k parallel stream
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test passes). Chosen for parallel safety after DSpark; kept as the
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fallback under MTP in the current config.
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## Benchmark Method
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The matrix ran 54 configurations: 3 spec types (`draft-mtp,ngram-mod`,
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`draft-mtp`, `ngram-mod`) x `--spec-draft-n-max` 2..10 x
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`--spec-draft-p-min` {off, 0.8}. Each config loaded `llama-server`,
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then ran 3 generations. The tool is `scripts/spec-matrix-bench.sh`;
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analysis is `scripts/analyze-spec-matrix.py`.
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## Matrix Caveat: Benchmark Prompt
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The matrix used a repetitive 1100-token prompt
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(`scripts/bench_live.sh` style). MTP drafts that repeated sentence almost
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perfectly, which inflated the numbers for long drafts. The matrix reported
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`draft-mtp` n_max=10 at ~30 t/s. A realistic story prompt gave very
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different results:
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| n_max | median t/s (realistic) |
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| ----- | ----------------------- |
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| 4 | 12.5 |
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| 5 | 13.3 (peak) |
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| 6 | 10.6 |
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| 7 | 10.1 |
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| 10 | 8.6 |
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| none (baseline) | 7.2 |
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Long drafts collapse to ~18% acceptance on real writing. n_max=5 balances
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acceptance against draft cost.
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## Premature Stop Investigation
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Two failure patterns appeared during early production tests:
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1. Speed collapse. `ubatch >= 512` reduced MTP acceptance to ~25% and
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generation to ~9 t/s. `ubatch 128` with `batch >= 2048` triggered a
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premature instant-EOS under 2 concurrent slots. `ubatch 256` avoids
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both: ~30 t/s single, concurrent-safe.
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2. Apparent premature-EOS. The repetitive benchmark prompt with `temp 1.0`
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sometimes stops after 1-2 tokens because the model legitimately emits an
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EOS on a wall of repeated text. This is sampling variance, not a
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corruption bug. Realistic prompts never stop early.
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## High-Context Backend Comparison (2026-08-15)
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Tool: `scripts/bench-high-ctx.sh <device> <ctx>`. Both runs at ctx 262144
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with a ~200k-token realistic-prose prompt, `--spec-default`, batch 8192 /
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ubatch 256, single slot, on scratch port 7892.
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| Device | Prompt tokens | Prefill (t/s) | Generation (t/s) | Wall (single req) |
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| ------ | ------------- | ------------- | ---------------- | ----------------- |
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| ROCm0 | 202822 | **119.1** | 3.83 | **1770 s** |
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| Vulkan0 | 200235 | 106.3 | **5.68** | 1929 s |
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Verdict: at very high context, Vulkan0 decodes **48% faster** (5.68 vs
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3.83 t/s); ROCm0 prefills 12% faster. Generation is the interactive cost
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(users stream tokens). This verdict applies to the standalone
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configuration; the PP head runs ROCm0 (HIP registers before Vulkan).
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Both `tg_3s` values were rock-steady across the run (3.83 and 5.67 t/s).
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High-context decode collapses on both backends versus ~25 t/s at 16k ctx;
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that is the long-context attention penalty, not a spec artifact.
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## Production Configuration
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The live tunables live in `scripts/frank-large.env` (head) and
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`scripts/frank-pp-worker.env` (worker) in this repo. The Production
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state section at the top of this page records the current values: Q6_K
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model + standalone MTP draft, split 0.68/0.32, 262144 ctx, PARALLEL=1,
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q8_0/f16 KV.
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## See Also
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- [[frank-large-benchmark]]
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- [[ling-3.0-flash-trial]]
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- [[deployment]]
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