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Frank d29d104f01 docs: frontier-MoE feasibility on Dankserver (V4.1 / MiMo / GLM-5.3)
Answers Frank's question: given the 2x R9700 box, which of DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash,
MiMo-V2.6-Flash-MOPD and GLM-5.3-Flash runs best, on what runtime, and can
Affinity / vllm-radiance / FreeToken-AMD be modified to run them fast.

Sizing, measured from the HF API rather than the model cards:
- DS4.1 payload 475.27 GiB, of which 189.13 GiB is Engram (two 94.56 GiB
  shards, the layer 1 and 14 lookup tables). Lucebox never maps them, so
  they do not evict the expert page cache.
- 240 routed experts x ~11 MB per token at the 37-of-384-per-layer residency
  the hot stack can hold = ~2.4 GB across PCIe per token. At 55 GB/s real on
  Gen5 x8 that is a ~23 tok/s ceiling, under the 35 tok/s goal before any
  attention or dense work.
- The backend refuses layer-major prefill for V4.1, so the only legal
  prefill is token-by-token; 1000 t/s is ~20x away.

Affinity (Codeberg StillDeadcode) builds clean here (hipcc 23, gfx1201, zero
errors) and claims 110 tok/s for the 284B V4-Flash, because the 101 GiB
container leaves the cold expert set in a pinned host pool in RAM. V4.1 is
2.5x too big to repeat that. Port scope, from both checkpoints' real
safetensors indices: expert machinery ports unchanged (identical tensor
naming, 15,360 tensors at 40x384), 26/32 per-layer tensors and 34/35 config
keys present. Five gaps - Engram, the disjoint {0,1,2} vs {0,4,128} ratio
vocabulary, CED, the DSpark draft geometry, vision. num_hash_layers is the
only key V4.1 lacks, so model.h:36's default of 3 silently survives and
would route layers 0-2 through a table that does not exist.

Also corrects: Dankserver RAM 60 -> 246 GiB (stale since the 2026-09-20 board
swap) and storage; the top-level index credited V4.1 with V4's geometry
(43 layers / 256 experts vs the actual 40 / 384).
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# LLM Fleet — Knowledge Base
Documentation for the LLM inference fleet on the two hosts (2026-09-27):
**Dankserver runs R9V radiance-vLLM on frank-primary** (the drwolfen fork
serving the unsloth Qwen3.8-Flash-Next Q8_0 + MTP4 across both Radeon AI
PRO R9700s on :7770, docker-pinned runtime driven through a docker→podman
shim, the Qwen-Sharp template, 131072 ctx), and Dankclaw runs two llama.cpp endpoints —
stock llama.cpp (unsloth b11030, ROCm gfx1151; frank-large, unsloth
Qwen3.8-27B UD-Q8_K_XL + the z-lab DFlash2 Q4_K_M drafter on the gfx1151
iGPU, port 7770) and mainline llama.cpp (frank-small, HauhauCS Gemma4-12B
QAT Q4_K_M with MTP and vision on the RTX 3090, port 7771).
> 2026-08-22: the former `vllmScripts` repository is merged into the
> serverAppConfigs repository. This knowledge base moved from the old repo's
> `serverAppConfigs-docs/` root to `serverAppConfigs-docs/LLM/`. The fleet scripts and units now live in the
> repo's `scripts/` directory.
## Deployment Topology
```mermaid
graph LR
subgraph Dankserver[AMD Dankserver - Ubuntu 26.04]
A[2x Radeon AI PRO R9700
gfx1201, 32 GiB each]
B2[R9V radiance-vLLM fork, docker-pinned
via docker-podman shim
frank-primary, port 7770]
C[Qwen3.8-Flash-Next Q8_0
TP=2 tiered experts, MTP4, sharp template, 131072 ctx, vision]
end
subgraph Dankclaw[AMD Strix Halo - Ubuntu 26.04]
E2[RTX 3090 (PCIe x4 dock) +
gfx1151 iGPU 114 GiB GTT]
E[stock llama.cpp (unsloth b11030, gfx1151)
frank-large, port 7770]
F[Qwen3.8-27B UD-Q8_K_XL + DFlash2 Q4_K_M drafter
262144 ctx / 1 slot, DFlash2 depth 4, q8_0 KV]
G[mainline llama.cpp 37b53fd
frank-small, port 7771]
H[Gemma4-12B QAT Q4_K_M
4 x 262144 ctx, MTP + vision + audio]
E2 --> E --> F
E2 --> G --> H
end
CLI[LLM Clients / API] -->|HTTP :7770| B2
CLI -->|HTTP :7770| E
CLI -->|HTTP :7771| G
```
## Servers
| Server | GPU | VRAM / Memory | OS |
| --------------------------------------- | ----------------------------- | -------------------- | ------------ |
| [[Dankserver System Specs\|Dankserver]] | 2x AMD Radeon AI PRO R9700 | 2x 32 GB VRAM, 246 GB RAM | Ubuntu 26.04 |
| [[Dankclaw System Specs\|Dankclaw]] | AMD Radeon 8060S (Strix Halo) | gfx1151 unified memory | Ubuntu 26.04 |
## Active Deployment
- [[frank-primary-r9v-radiance-qwen38-q8]] — the ACTIVE frank-primary
runbook (2026-09-27, root systemd unit, port 7770): the R9V
radiance-vLLM fork (drwolfen/radiance-vllm-qwen4exp, docker-pinned
image bundle `2dac17a2`, driven through a docker→podman shim) serving
the unsloth Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF Q8_0 (175.30 GiB, 6 shards) +
blockfp8 MTP4 (depth 4) + vision on BOTH R9700s — TP=2 tiered experts
(80-slot LRU cache), PLE n-gram PINNED in host RAM (54.4 GB), CED off,
131072 ctx, the Qwen-Sharp v22.4.0 template via the launcher's
`R9V_CHAT_TEMPLATE_FILE` passthrough (fork `30d4a32`), the quantized
inject-shard dev-overlay adapter (fork `363d606`), reasoning channel
`reasoning`, parser `qwen3_coder`. The tuned shape lives in the
on-host q8xl setup state. Rollback:
[[frank-primary-r9v-radiance-qwen38-uncensored]]
- [[frank-primary-r9v-radiance-qwen38-uncensored]] — RETIRED 2026-09-27
(same-day swap to the Q8_0 payload; rollback target, state + payload
intact on disk): the R9V radiance-vLLM fork serving
Dyluhn/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-R9V-IQ4_XS (92.39 GiB, 3 shards) +
blockfp8 MTP4 (depth 4) + F16 vision on BOTH R9700s — TP=2 tiered
experts (UVA pinned host copy, 62 hot + 160-slot LRU on rank 0, 428
static on rank 1), PLE n-gram on ssd-mmap, CED on, 196608 ctx. Cut over
from llama.cpp the same day; rollback target
[[frank-primary-llamacpp-qwen38-flash-next-q8]]
- [[frank-primary-llamacpp-qwen38-flash-next-q8]] — RETIRED 2026-09-27
(rollback target; the llama.cpp b11030 endpoint of 2026-09-26):
unsloth llama.cpp (b11030-mix prebuilt, ROCm gfx120X, bundled runtime)
serving unsloth/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF at Q8_0 across both R9700s —
routed experts and the 51B-param n-gram table computed in host RAM
(`-ot exps=CPU,per_layer_token_embd.weight=CPU`), the shared Q8_0 MTP head
(depth 2) chained behind ngram-mod, BF16 vision, one full 262,144-token
conversation, `reasoning_content`, the placement law, the cutover and
rollback
- [[frank-primary-lucebox-ds4]] — RETIRED 2026-09-26 (same-day swap,
rollback target; active for hours): the Lucebox DS4.1 engine
(localhost/lucebox-rocm:gfx1201) serving
Lucebox/DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-ROCMFP23 (377.2 GiB) with streamed experts —
the fleet's only non-llama.cpp runtime detour
- [[dankserver-frontier-moe-feasibility]] — VERIFIED 2026-09-28: which of
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash (552B), MiMo-V2.6-Flash-MOPD (309B) and GLM-5.3-Flash
(320B) can run on the 2x R9700 box, on what runtime, and why V4.1 does not
fit (475 GiB payload, 189 GiB of it Engram; decode is PCIe-expert-stream
bound, ~23 tok/s ceiling at today's residency). Includes the Affinity
V4-Flash-to-V4.1 port assessment — reusable expert tiering, four
architecture gaps, one of them a silent-wrongness trap on the Engram key
- [[frank-medium-radiance-mxfp4]] — RETIRED 2026-09-26 (replaced by
[[frank-primary-lucebox-ds4]], then
[[frank-primary-llamacpp-qwen38-flash-next-q8]]): vllm-radiance 0.9.3
serving just1moremodel/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-MXFP4-awq (MXFP4/quark
W4A8) with the z-lab DFlash2-FP8 drafter as ONE tensor-parallel process
(TP=2) behind :7770, on unquantized bf16 KV (`KV_DTYPE=auto`, cut
2026-09-21). The FP8 checkpoint is the on-disk rollback. The three-arm
battery that chose TP=2, the auto-sized KV pool, and the verified
capability battery (tools, reasoning)
- [[frank-medium-model-swap]] — how to swap the checkpoint behind frank-medium:
the streamlining toolchain (hf-manifest.py, hf-fetch.sh,
swap-frank-medium.sh), the quantization-aware entrypoint contract, the
quadlet edit, the deploy, the capability battery, and the rollback path.
The 2026-09-20 MXFP4 → FP8 swap is the worked example
- [[frank-medium-llamacpp-dflash2]] — RETIRED 2026-09-16 → 2026-09-20: mainline
llama.cpp serving orcarouter/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-GGUF at Q8_0 with the
DFlash2 Q4_K_M drafter as ONE layer-split process (32:33 over two
163,840-token slots); superseded by the radiance TP=2 cutover, and the
rollback target. Keeps the batch/ubatch optimum curve and the per-layer split
arithmetic
- [[Dual-R9700-Cooperation]] — whether the two R9700s can serve ONE model: the
RCCL/PCIe-atomics wall on the old TUF GAMING B650-E, the 2026-09-20 ProArt
B850-Creator x8/x8 swap that cleared it, and the measured three-way verdict
(radiance TP=2 95.8 t/s decode vs layer split 45.7 vs llama tensor mode 30.5)
that put TP=2 in production
- [[frank-medium-rocmfpx]] — PRIOR frank-medium deployment (llama.cpp era,
2026-09-15): charlie12345/ROCmFPX serving
kingjones777/Qwen3.8-27B-ROCmFPX-Q8_0-AGENT-GGUF; kept as the record of the
runtime it replaced
- [[freetoken-frank-small]] — RETIRED 2026-09-15, when the RTX 3090 moved to
frank-large: the FreeToken v0.1.2 frank-small runbook (batsclamp
Huihui-Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-abliterated-FP8), kept as the retirement record. The
NAME was reused on 2026-09-16 by a different service on Dankclaw — see
[[frank-small-qwen38-gsq-rco]]
- [[freetoken-benchmark-sweep]] — KV pool vs decode speed sweep
(bs1/bs3/bs4/bs6, 8k–700k KV) on Dankserver RTX 3090
- [[deployment]] — deploy and update process for both servers
- [[frank-redo-2026-08-17]] — the 2026-08-17 topology change
- [[frank-large-unsloth-qwen38-27b-q8xl]] — ACTIVE frank-large runbook
since 2026-09-21 (root systemd unit, port 7770): stock llama.cpp
(unsloth b11030, ROCm gfx1151) serving
unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF:UD-Q8_K_XL (27B dense) with the z-lab DFlash2
Q4_K_M drafter (depth 4) on the gfx1151 iGPU — one full 262,144-token
conversation, q8_0 KV (the build lacks fp8), text-only, Qwen-Sharp
v22.4.0 template, the 114 GiB GTT memory model, client contract,
troubleshooting
- [[frank-large-kairic-edge-qwen38-27b]] — RETIRED 2026-09-21 (same-day
swap, replaced by [[frank-large-unsloth-qwen38-27b-q8xl]]; rollback
target): the Kairic Edge runtime (ciru-ai/ROCmFPX v1.2, built from
source) serving jcbtc/Qwen3.8-27B-IU4-Kairic-Edge (IU4 W4A4, 27B dense)
on the gfx1151 iGPU — one full 262,144-token conversation, MTP depth 4 +
n-gram drafting, the three PromptForge sidecars, compatibility mode, the
114 GiB GTT memory model, client contract, troubleshooting
- [[frank-large-unsloth-qwen38-flash-next]] — RETIRED 2026-09-21 (same-day
swap, replaced by [[frank-large-kairic-edge-qwen38-27b]]; rollback target):
the unsloth llama.cpp prebuilt (b11030-mix-5ff778e, ROCm gfx1151) serving
unsloth/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF:UD-IQ4_XS (125B MoE) on the gfx1151 iGPU —
one 200,000-token conversation, MTP depth 2 via the explicit -md shared-Q8_0
head, the 114 GiB GTT memory model, client contract, troubleshooting
- [[frank-large-ciru-orca]] — RETIRED 2026-09-21 (replaced by
[[frank-large-unsloth-qwen38-flash-next]]; rollback target): the CIRU
v4.4.1 runtime (private host build, QSA hotfix) serving
jcbtc/Qwen3.8-Flash-CIRU-STRIX-Orca w4b on the gfx1151 iGPU — one
262,144-token conversation, MTP depth 4, 4096 MiB PLE cache, runtime-root
gate, client contract, troubleshooting (2026-09-19 → 09-21)
- [[halogen-flash-server]] — RETIRED 2026-09-19 (replaced by
[[frank-large-ciru-orca]]; rollback target): peonist-ai halogen-flash-server
0.5.8 serving peonist-ai/halogen-qwen3.8-flash-next (Qwen3.8-Flash-Next w4b
.hgn + quality overlay) on the gfx1151 iGPU — two 200k conversations over one
400,384-position pool, deployed flags, memory model, client contract,
troubleshooting (2026-09-16 → 09-19)
- [[frank-small-gemma4-12b]] — ACTIVE frank-small runbook since 2026-09-17
(root systemd unit, port 7771): mainline llama.cpp serving
HauhauCS/Gemma4-12B-QAT-Uncensored-HauhauCS-Balanced Q4_K_M on the RTX
3090, with the separate MTP assistant sidecar chained behind ngram-mod,
q8_0 KV, and `--fit` sizing the full 262k window into ~12 GiB. A same-day
vLLM detour (2026-09-19) was reverted the same day; see below.
- [[frank-small-vllm-gemma4]] — RETIRED 2026-09-19 (same-day revert,
rollback target): vLLM serving google/gemma-4-12B-it-qat-w4a16-ct (w4a16
Marlin) with the bf16 MTP assistant on the RTX 3090 — bf16 KV, 289,647-
token pool, 2 concurrent full-context sessions, native text+image+audio.
- [[frank-small-qwen38-gsq-rco]] — RETIRED 2026-09-17 (rollback target): the
prior frank-small runbook (2026-09-16 → 09-17), ISTA-DASLab
Qwen3.8-27B-GSQ-RCO IQ3_S with the model's own in-file MTP head and
f16 KV at 131k
- [[x4-pair-experiment]] — MEASURED 2026-09-16: what mainline llama.cpp can and
cannot do with the 3090 + Strix Halo pair, over their only link (the 3090's
Gen4 x4). The tensor inventory that decides any split, the single flag (`-ot`)
that kills per-tensor placement across devices, the two-device layer splits
that work (+7 % decode at 64k, cross-vendor included), the harness-parsing trap
that invalidated the first round, and the iGPU-only result that matches
halogen's deployed decode rate — at a memory cost the co-tenants cannot pay
- [[frank-large-ik-uncensored]] — RETIRED 2026-09-16 (rollback target): the
ik_llama.cpp runbook (root systemd unit, 2026-09-15 → 09-16) serving
mradermacher/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-i1-Q4_K_M on the RTX 3090
(dense/attention/KV) + LPDDR (experts/PLE) hybrid; its measured envelope and
decode root-cause chain are the record of why the fleet went back to halogen
- [[dankclaw-iommu-translation-off]] — why Dankclaw boots with
`amd_iommu=off` since 2026-09-11 (13-16 % prefill, measured upstream),
what it cost (the NPU endpoint), what was deliberately not copied from
the reference machine, and how to revert
- [[kingjones-strix-rocmfp4]] — PRIOR frank-large runbook and rollback
target: kingjones777/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-STRIX-GGUF, 177B params
(56B MoE + 51.2B PLE), single 113.47 GiB GGUF, on the card's pinned
kingjones30/ROCmFPX fork (2026-08-30 → 2026-09-11)
- [[ubatch-benchmark-large]] — active-model llama-bench ubatch sweep plan and results
- [[frank-medium-batch-ubatch]] — batch/ubatch sweep on the 2x R9700 layer split
(2026-09-16): the ubatch optimum at 512, why the logical batch is free, and
the split rebalance that followed it
- [[kingjones-q8agent-rocmfpx]] — the retired Q8_0-AGENT investigation and `set_rows` failure
- [[eemin-rocmi4-mtp]] — the former caf-eemin Qwen3.8-27B embedded-MTP model
on Dankclaw (retired)
- [[dealign-ornith-crack]] — the retired Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B CRACK model on
Dankserver (frank-small, retired 2026-09-02)
- [[ikllama-ornith-dankserver]] — the retired ik_llama.cpp runtime for
frank-small (2026-08-26): q8_0 + Hadamard KV cache,
split-mode none (single-GPU), mandatory FA_ALL_QUANTS build flags
- [[kingjones-strix-mtp]] — the former Q6 AGENT runbook (restored 2026-09-01
after Q8_0 failure, then superseded by the STRIX deployment on 2026-08-27)
- [[ciru-activefpx-promptforge]] — the RETIRED v3 CIRU PromptForge runtime
on Dankclaw (superseded 2026-08-24 by the kingjones ROCmFP4 model)
- [[kairic-edge]] — the retired Kairic Edge IU4 experiment
(deployed and reverted 2026-08-22)
- [[Dankserver System Specs]] — the 2x R9700 box (frank-primary)
- [[Dankclaw System Specs]] — the Strix Halo gfx1151 box (frank-large on
the unsloth b11030 runtime since 2026-09-21, frank-small on the RTX 3090)
- [[frank-npu]] — RETIRED 2026-09-11: the FLM NPU sight+sound endpoint
on Dankclaw (Gemma4 E4B vision+audio pack, XDNA2, port 7771), kept as
the retirement record — the IOMMU/SVA err=-19 root cause and where
every dependent route moved
## CIRU Reference (Dankclaw)
- [[ciru-activefpx-promptforge]] — the RETIRED v3 model, ROCm 7.15 toolchain,
and build history (on Dankclaw; the slot now serves the kingjones
ROCmFP4 model, see [[kingjones-strix-mtp]])
- [[kairic-edge]] — Kairic Edge IU4 runtime: build runbook, binary
identity, and experiment summary (retired 2026-08-22)
## DFlash2 Reference (archived)
- [[dflash2-large-vulkan]] — the retired DFlash2 Vulkan deployment
(2026-08-21)
## vLLM Reference (historical)
- [[VLLM Overview]] — installation, CLI, API, architecture, quantization, parallelism
- [[VLLM Index]] — quick reference with commands, endpoints, and parameter table
- [[Running Qwen3.6 35B A3B FP8 on Dankserver]] — Qwen3.6-35B-A3B hardware
notes and sizing (this architecture family is what the retired frank-small
served in the Huihui abliterated FP8 variant — see
[[freetoken-frank-small]]; the Ornith-1.5-35B-A3B CRACK checkpoint
that preceded it is archived at [[dealign-ornith-crack]])
## Memory Management
- [[RAM CPU Offloading in VLLM]] — KV cache swap between GPU VRAM and system RAM
- [[Hybrid CPU GPU Processing Dankserver]] — NVIDIA GPU compute with system RAM offload
- [[Shared Memory Architecture Dankclaw]] — AMD unified memory and ROCm configuration
## Retired Topology (2026-08-17 redo)
- [[Qwen3.8 PP Deployment]] — the retired pipeline-parallel head + worker
- [[qwen3.8-spec-matrix]] — Qwen3.8-27B spec history (superseded by FastMTP)
- [[FastFlowLM NPU Inference]] — the retired FastFlowLM NPU endpoint
- [[frank-large-benchmark]] — backend/spec benchmark behind the old head
- [[dankserver-vram-growth]] — VRAM/RAM growth behind the retired cuBLAS crash
- [[DFlash DSpark Speculative Decoding]] — retired DFlash/DSpark drafting
- [[Quantization by Hardware Architecture]] — which quant format fits which GPU/CPU
## Pipeline Parallelism (archive)
- [[Pipeline Parallelism/index]] — index of multi-node inference research. The PP
pair is retired. These pages are research history.
## Runtime Research (llama.cpp family)
- [[Llama Cpp Runtimes]] — mainline vs charlie12345/ROCmFPX vs ik_llama.cpp: positioning, quantization, server fit
- [[Llama Cpp Code Diff]] — code-level quantization diff of the three runtimes + server recommendations
- [[SGLang]] — the structured-generation serving engine; when it fits Dankserver (2x R9700) vs Dankclaw (Strix Halo)
## Related
- [Project knowledge base](../index.md) — the Podman app stacks on the same
two hosts. OpenWebUI (Dankclaw) consumes the on-host `frank-large`
endpoint at `:7770`. The Gitea instance on Dankclaw hosts this repository.
- [Deployment Flow](../Architecture/Deployment%20Flow.md) — the service-scoped
git-based deploy with inference isolation