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Frank 1e52e45fae docs(frank-tts): record the NPU spike verdict and the iGPU co-tenancy plan
The overnight spike settled whether frank-tts can run on the Strix Halo NPU.
It cannot, and the wall is the loader, not the silicon: AMD's own Linux
runtime opens /dev/accel/accel0, succeeds at the GEM ioctls, then declines
the NuTTS-Air graph without emitting a single log line — and the one run that
did load has never reproduced. The accelerator that does exist is the gfx1151
iGPU behind -DGGML_VULKAN=ON, a flag our own Containerfile.engine writes OFF,
and Frank set the target shape to co-tenancy: the engine resident beside
frank-dragoon, not a handover.

- report/tts-npu-spike-verdict-2026-10-19.md owns the measured result: the
  exoneration chain, the two arms' real-time bars (12.5 codes/s deployed vs
  50.00 for NuTTS-Air), the 65,536-entry speech-token census (ids
  151,671-217,206), the host gates (rootless cannot read accel0; dpkg-deb the
  vendor XRT, never dpkg -i), the iGPU census (18,523 of 116,733 MiB GTT in
  use, 17 GiB host RAM available, GTT pages are host pages), the two gates
  that decide co-tenancy (RADV heap for an APU tenant; dragoon's TTFT with a
  synthesis in flight), and the five-file change surface for the trial.
- report/npu-tts-runtime-landscape-2026-10-19.md and
  report/qwen3-tts-payload-portability-2026-10-19.md are the research slices;
  both now point at the verdict page instead of ending in loose ends.
- The vault page gains "Where the engine computes", so an operator doing a TTS
  task learns the NPU is a closed door without re-walking it.

No fleet change: frank-tts / frank-tts-engine still serve narrator1-3 on CPU.
tests: ./tests/run.sh 450/450 green.
2026-10-19 14:02:34 -07:00

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TTS on the Strix Halo NPU — spike verdict (2026-10-19)

Question: how can the fleet's TTS engine run on hardware rather than CPU? Answer in one line: not on the NPU — the loader, not the silicon, refuses it; the door that exists is the gfx1151 iGPU behind a build flag we already own.

Spike evidence lives in report/npu-tts-runtime-landscape-2026-10-19.md (which runtimes can reach XDNA2 at all) and report/qwen3-tts-payload-portability-2026-10-19.md (what the payload is and where it can be moved). This page owns only the measured spike result and the model-side contract neither slice has. Throwaway work ran in containers under /home/dank/spikes/npu-tts on Dankclaw; nothing in the fleet was changed — frank-tts and frank-tts-engine still serve narrator1|2|3 on CPU.

Legend: [host] live census 2026-10-19 · [spike] measured in the spike containers · [vendor] primary vendor source, with the version it holds for.

1. Verdict

NO-GO on the NPU, and the wall is a loader. The XDNA2 device is healthy by AMD's own instruments; the runtime that owns this model family opens the device and then declines the graph, silently. One run loaded successfully; byte-identical runs never reproduced it, and a path that cannot be reproduced is not a foundation. [spike]

Go on the iGPU, and the lever is in this repo. dankclaw/voiceservice/Containerfile.engine builds qwentts.cpp (commit 5916bf7) with -DGGML_VULKAN=OFF written out deliberately beside CUDA/HIP/METAL/SYCL/RPC — the running container carries libggml-base.so.0.27.0 + libggml-cpu.so.0.27.0 + tts-server and nothing else. So: -DGGML_VULKAN=ON + --device Vulkan0, plus /dev/dri passthrough in the engine quadlet (the ComfyUI pattern: AddDevice + GroupAdd=keep-groups + a world-writable udev rule). The target shape is co-tenancy — the engine resident on the gfx1151 beside frank-dragoon, not a handover — so §5 carries the census and the two gates that decide it: the heap RADV offers an APU tenant, and dragoon's TTFT with a synthesis in flight. Unproven, stated: whether qwentts.cpp's codec ops have Vulkan kernels for every op. [host] [spike]

Why the iGPU is worth doing at all, given CPU already works: the deployed payload needs only 12.5 codes/s (§2), so this is latency headroom and freed cores, not reviving a dead service. The independent Strix Halo measurement in the portability slice ("use Vulkan exclusively"; NPU decode under 1.5 t/s for an 8B) points the same way.

2. The two arms do not share a real-time bar

Arm Talker Codec Codes per second of audio Bar
Deployed (frank-tts-engine) qwen-talker-1.7b-base-Q4_K_M.gguf qwen-tokenizer-12hz-Q8_0.gguf 12.5 ~13 tok/s [host]
Spike (amd/neutts-air_rai_1.8.0_npu_4K) NuTTS-Air, 24-layer Qwen2 NeuCodec 24000 / hop 480 50.00 ~50 tok/s [spike]

Measured from the staged NPU artifact — the contract any future arm must satisfy:

Fact Value
Vocab genai_config.json vocab_size 217,652; base BPE 151,643; specials 151,644–151,670 [spike]
Speech tokens 65,536 `<
Stop token `<
Input ceiling 4096 tokens total, input + output [vendor]
Frame rate 50.00 codes/s confirmed across three references (49.96 / 49.99 / 50.00) [spike]
Reference encode librosa.load(sr=16000, mono=True) → [1,1,T] float → codec.encode_code(audio_or_path=…) (vendor NeuTTS.encode_reference); CPU RTF 0.28–0.38 on 8 threads, so codes are a cacheable one-time cost, never a per-request charge. neucodec also needs torchtune; install both --no-deps --target <dir> so a second torch never shadows the venv's. [spike]
Pre-encoded voices /spike/logs/codes-narrator{1,2,3}.npy — 994 / 1,249 / 1,250 codes for 19.90 / 24.98 / 25.00 s [spike]

Gap that any arm inherits: the voice packs carry no transcript. manifest.json holds provenance and crop geometry (crop.source_speech_run 98.739–118.636 s of a 22,569 s audiobook) and no text, and Dankclaw has no ASR at all — whisper, whisper.cpp, faster-whisper all absent. NuTTS conditioning needs ref_text; do not invent it. [host]

3. Exoneration chain — why the blame is not the hardware

Every row is an instrument, not an inference.

Probe Result
xrt-smi examine [0000:c6:00.1] RyzenAI-npu5 aie2p 6x8, XRT 2.25.37 (vendor extract), NPU fw 1.1.2.65, amdxdna 7.0.0-38-generic [spike]
xrt-smi validate PASSED, including throughput [spike]
pyxrt.device(0) in-container constructs — XRT enumerates the device [spike]
strace -f -e trace=openat on the failing load genai_config.json read → model.onnx opened → libxrt_driver_xdna.so.2 loaded → /dev/accel/accel0 opened O_RDWR → GEM ioctls succeed → EP declines, before touching dd_metastate_* or cache/txn_bins.zip [spike]
dmesg, fuser /dev/accel/accel0 silent since boot, no holder — the decline never reaches the kernel [spike]
Hardlinked mirror dirs of the model tree (rundir*) retired, no change — the "metastate shadowing" theory is dead [spike]
Every logging lever in that build: GENAI_ORT_VERBOSE_LOGGING, GENAI_LOG_ORT_LIB, set_log_options, set_log_callback(callable), RYZENAI_EP_TRACING, RYZENAI_LLM_PROFILE_INIT zero lines — the decline path is silent [spike]
Vendor quicktest Session successfully initialized — proves the XRT/driver/device path, not NPU residency: that build falls back to CPU silently. Prove residency with /sys/class/accel/accel0/device/mem_usage during generation. [spike] [vendor]

No NPU token rate was ever measured, so none is quoted here. The single successful load (13:17, [load] 0.84s, finite logits, XRT banner at generate time) has not been reproduced by the byte-identical command since, with the model files pristine by inode and mtime. [spike]

4. Host gates the spike proved (so they are not re-litigated)

  • Rootless containers cannot read /dev/accel/accel0 (root:render 0660): the host gid never enters the userns map. --group-add keep-groups, --userns=keep-id, --userns=keep-id:gid=990, --group-add render, --group-add gid:990 — all fail. Doors: rootful podman (separate storage), or a world-writable udev rule, which the fleet already does for kfd/renderD*. [spike]
  • Never dpkg -i the vendor XRT deb — it installs a DKMS amdxdna over the distro driver. dpkg-deb -x the debs and bind-mount the tree at /opt/xilinx/xrt; the plugin deb is what carries libxrt_driver_xdna.so. [spike]
  • In-tree amdxdna 0.7.0-38 + iommu=pt is enough for context creation; a missing device node is not the modern failure mode. [host]
  • xrt-smi inside a container needs libboost-filesystem1.83.0 + libboost-program-options1.83.0 (hyphenated Ubuntu names, after apt update); boost is needed by xrt-smi only, never by the OGA/EP path. [spike]
  • Headroom is tight and it is host RAM, not a separate pool — see §5 for tonight's census. A multi-GB NPU partition plus an AIE compile workspace does not fit beside frank-dragoon. Benign-looking Failed to alloc dev bo memory, ret -28 is that pressure. [host]

5. Target shape: the TTS engine shares the gfx1151 with frank-dragoon

The deployment Frank wants is both resident at once, not a handover. Measured 2026-10-19 (read-only, nothing loaded or unloaded):

Measure Value Reading
iGPU GTT in use 18,523 MiB of 116,733 MiB ≈96 GiB of aperture free; this is the real budget (fleet law) [host]
DRM "VRAM" carve-out 2,048 MiB total, 174 MiB used what KFD/DRM calls dedicated — not the budget [host]
Host RAM 121 GiB total, 17 GiB available, 79 GiB buff/cache GTT pages are system pages: an iGPU allocation is host RAM consumed, so the two tenants share one pool [host]
TTS engine today 3.84 GiB RSS, CPU its device-resident replacement lands in that same pool [host]

Two gates, in this order, before any deploy:

  1. Heap gate (unmeasured — the number that decides everything else). What heap RADV offers a tenant on this APU is not known here: mesa-vulkan-drivers 26.0.3 and radeon_icd.json are installed, vulkan-tools is not. Enumerate VkPhysicalDeviceMemoryProperties inside the container that will host the engine — before loading a model. If the device-local heap is the 2 GiB carve-out rather than the aperture, weights + KV + compute buffers fall back allocation-by-allocation and the iGPU win is gone. [inferred] — the fallback behavior is the risk, and the missing number is the gate.
  2. Contention gate. frank-dragoon is the endpoint the operator session runs on, so the honest measurement with both loaded is dragoon's own TTFT and decode with a synthesis in flight — one request each, no ladder. Expect compute-unit sharing rather than memory pressure: the aperture has room, the shaders do not.

Change surface — the whole edit, so nobody re-derives it:

  1. Containerfile.engine build stage: add libvulkan-dev glslang-dev. It installs only ca-certificates cmake g++ git make today, and ggml's Vulkan backend compiles its shaders at build time — the flag alone fails at configure.
  2. -DGGML_VULKAN=OFF → ON in the same cmake block; the flag list is written out explicitly, so this is a one-word diff.
  3. Runtime stage: add mesa-vulkan-drivers. Without a Vulkan ICD inside the image the device node buys nothing — there is no radeon_icd.json in the container today.
  4. frank-tts-engine.container: AddDevice=/dev/dri/renderD128 + GroupAdd=keep-groups.
  5. Engine argv: --device Vulkan0 — qwentts.cpp's tools take --device <name> at the pinned commit.

Gate 1 is one command: vulkan-tools in a throwaway container off the same base with /dev/dri passed through, then vulkaninfo and read the VkPhysicalDeviceMemoryProperties heap sizes — no model, no load, no compute. Every package involved has a candidate on the host's apt (vulkan-tools 1.4.341, libvulkan-dev 1.4.341, glslang-dev/glslang-tools 16.2.0); the build stage runs on the digest-pinned Ubuntu 24.04 base, whose versions are older but present.

Constraints that do not relax for a co-tenant: /dev/dri passthrough needs the ComfyUI pattern (AddDevice + GroupAdd=keep-groups + the world-writable udev rule) because systemd user-unit spawns carry no supplementary groups; the 64 GiB swap at /swap.img exists to protect co-tenants, and paging a KV pool is worse than the OOM it prevents; pp_dpm_fclk reads auto (unheld), which only becomes a hazard if the NPU ever joins.

6. Re-visit condition

Retry the NPU when a Linux loader claims the graph: an onnxruntime-genai-ryzenai build whose RyzenAI adapter takes the NuTTS-Air Full-Fusion graph on RyzenAI-npu5, or that model appearing in a runtime's own supported catalog with a Linux runner. Then the prerequisites are already mapped and priced: the gated NeuCodec encoder for cloned voices, the ref_text transcripts, the 4096-token prompt budget, and 50 codes/s as the bar.