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Frank 1fee99c8ce docs(frank-primary): record the verified 2026-10-05 prefix-cache-off deploy
Deploy b820d34, measured: --no-enable-prefix-caching in the engine argv,
health 200, warm boot 76.57 s (compile cache intact), expert plan
unchanged (17.77 GiB / 7,762 slots), GPU KV cache 424,678 tokens (up
from 401,408 at the same byte ask - pool now prices ~7,456 B/token with
the per-block mamba checkpoint pages gone; still clears the 400,700
floor), zero gdn_hip lines, and the 40,771-token boundary probe
(13 x 3136 = 40,768 crossed) decoded the 1-400 count coherently
(0.997 monotone, tail ...398 399 400). e2e 32/33 - the failure is the
admin spec's FrankBook-Pro leg (mini asleep), environmental.
2026-10-05 05:55:39 -07:00
Frank 9d8b18553d frank-primary: prefix caching OFF — the fork's QFN align-mode GDN state fault
Measured 2026-10-04 18:46:07 PDT (live podman logs): 48 gdn_hip state
faults in one 0.6 s burst — 'state out of ssm-cache range: max|S|=0 with
non-finite values (slot=42 head=3|8)', one per TP rank, 23 GDN layers
each — then the process-lifetime report cap. The guard's own text in
this build names it: 'known Qwen3.8-Flash-Next (QFN) flaw under prefix
caching … Mitigation: --no-enable-prefix-caching'.

Mechanism: prefix caching puts QFN on mamba_cache_mode 'align', which
checkpoints each sequence's GDN recurrent state into a mamba page per
3136-token block and re-seeds it from that page when a request resumes
from a cached prefix. The NaN state landed at the 13th boundary
(13 x 3136 = 40,768 — the reported ~40k mark) and persisted in the page:
every later turn of that conversation re-seeded the same non-finite
state for two heads, silently (fault-report cap already spent).

RAM ruled out the same day: zero MCE/EDAC records since the boot under
test, 8 GiB in-band pattern stable under live load, 4800 MT/s is the
JEDEC floor on 5600-rated DIMMs, and the two-head single-slot NaN
signature is a state-path fault, not scattered bit corruption.

Fix: FRANK_PRIMARY_NO_PREFIX_CACHING=1 -> --no-enable-prefix-caching
(flag renders in both directions from the knob). Cost: every turn
re-prefills the whole history instead of at most 3135 tail tokens.

Seam updated: the prefix-cache pin now asserts the conditional render
and the shipped OFF value. Runbook carries the evidence + acceptance
criteria; all 368 tests pass.
2026-10-05 03:45:26 -07:00
Frank a1c4701d7e docs(frank-small): Q8_0 rung evaluated and closed — floor break plus -24% decode 2026-10-04 18:17:43 -07:00
Frank c4603b130c frank-primary: pin the expert host region to 120 GiB (--expert-offload-mem)
The host region was the ONE arena-plan term still autofitting per boot: with
no cap the planner binds it to MemAvailable AT BOOT minus PLE/process/api/
margin terms (boot 2026-10-05: 237.97 GiB -> 159.39 GiB usable; the same host
reads 75.4 GiB available while running). Demand is 105.48 GiB
(52.74/rank x 2 ranks, 23,040 swap-target experts); a boot where co-tenant
RAM squeezed the bound near that silently pins next-hottest experts VRAM-only
(pinned_extra warning, smaller swap region, no flag change). 120 GiB =
measured demand + 14% headroom on 246.1 GiB total. Semantics verified in the
shipped image: cap binds as the bound, exceedance only warns.

The GPU-side arena is unchanged (deterministic arithmetic over the same
constants): verify after boot that host reads '--expert-offload-mem' and
slots stay 7,762. Seam: red first (wiring + value), then green; full suite
368+1 green.
2026-10-04 18:16:38 -07:00
Frank 9a144f779e docs(frank-primary): record VLLM_CUDAGRAPH_MEM_ESTIMATE_MB, the graph-term outright pin
Verified in the shipped image (v1/worker/gpu/cudagraph_mem.py):
estimate_cudagraph_memory() checks VLLM_CUDAGRAPH_MEM_ESTIMATE_MB FIRST and
returns that MiB total outright, ignoring the BASE/PER_GRAPH pair — the only
way to state the CUDA-graph plan term directly instead of deriving it. We
keep shipping the pair (0/12) so a future spec-decode shape re-prices
automatically; documented the switch condition.

Also corrected two stale shape-G claims in the runbook that predated the
1.00 revert: the deployed shape block and the lever table both still said
util 1.0 / 'le=1 ceiling', while shape G ships 0.982.
2026-10-04 17:51:27 -07:00
Frank 50459e4e31 docs: frank-small Q6_K cutover runbook + measured post-boot numbers
- new active runbook frank-small-llama-mimo-q6k-2x200704.md: 21,276 used /
  2,849 true free (inside the 2-3 GiB floor), decode 94.44 t/s vs 104.84 on
  Q5_K_M - the rung costs a measured -10 % (weight-bandwidth-bound card),
  512px red-PNG vision verified, and the new probe-size law (>=256 px: a
  10x10 image undersupplies image tokens and the model answers 'video'),
  nvidia-smi free-field law (driver holds ~450 MiB the subtraction hides)
- frank-small-llama-mimo-q5km.md retired; it keeps the boot-pair table and
  becomes the Q5 rollback reference (3,571 free, 104.84 t/s measured)
- AGENTS.md fleet row, endpoint section, --parallel lesson, runbook index
  (active row + two retired rows); LLM + root index entries
- Q6_K GGUF-vs-GGUF diff proven: template and all 46 KV keys byte-identical
  to Q5_K_M - the vision probe scare was probe size, not payload
2026-10-03 11:20:33 -07:00
Frank b80886e318 docs: frank-large Q6 uncensored cutover + frank-small 2x200704 f16-KV reslice
- new active runbook frank-large-rocmfpx-q6agent-uncensored-mtp.md: the
  Q6_0_ROCMFPX_AGENT file (ftype 114, 339 type-102 + 159 type-103 tensors),
  27.6-28.1 t/s at 86.8% draft acceptance, the measured ngram-mod chain
  rejection (-15% prose: recurrent-state rollback disabled), the
  bench-window hardening laws
- frank-large-rocmfpx-q8agent-mtp.md retired; rollback section corrected
  (gufo payloads removed from disk 2026-10-03 - that rollback is now a
  re-download; the aligned Q8 file is the direct one, still on disk)
- frank-small-llama-mimo-q5km.md reshaped to 2 x 200704 with fully
  unquantized f16 KV: boot-pair table gains the measured row (20,530 used /
  4,046 free), 104.84 tok/s, slot-window contract at 200704, rollback to
  the 3x180224 + q8_0-V shape documented
- AGENTS.md: fleet table rows, both endpoint sections, the chain law
  extended with the recurrent-model measurement, the --parallel law with
  the reslice, runbook index (active + retired)
- LLM/index.md + root index entries updated
2026-10-03 08:01:44 -07:00
Frank 47a2c1287b frank-primary: shape G measured — arena 17.77 GiB / 7,762 slots, KV 401,408 tokens / 2.00x
Record the live numbers and the UTIL 1.0 verdict (unbootable: worker init
demands free > budget; ValueError on both ranks before a single weight loads).
Driver used 30.97 of 31.86 GiB; the 0.89 GiB/card margin held through a live
4,096-token generation at ~38-39 tok/s.
2026-10-03 03:21:55 -07:00
Frank 0a4ff30db2 frank-primary: shape G — force the arena to the flag ceiling, KV to 400,700 tokens
Two plan terms were still unspent: the CUDA-graph charge (shape F's own boot
reported a NEGATIVE capture delta, -0.06 GiB, so the 256 MiB base pool was
fiction -> charge 0 + 12 MiB/graph = 0.07 GiB) and the budget (util 0.982 -> 1.0,
the field's le=1 maximum). Together +0.82 GiB of expert cache: plan target
18.35 GiB / ~8,016 slots. KV_BYTES 3.15e9 -> 3.1665e9 = the 400,700-token ask at
the engine's measured 7,891.8 B/token. Cost of the force, recorded: driver
high-water ~30.4 GiB of 31.86, so ~1.5 GiB of real margin per card; rollback is
UTIL=0.982.
2026-10-03 02:49:38 -07:00
Frank c682c6329c frank-primary: shape F — MNBT 2048, util 0.982, CUDA-graph plan term pinned to the measured capture
The arena is budget - non-expert - KV reserve - graphs - overhead. With util
capped at 0.982 (never 1.00) the graph estimate is the only plan term this repo
can shrink: the fork charges an analytic 256 MiB + 52 MiB/graph = 0.55 GiB where
the engine's own post-capture line reports 0.31 GiB, so pricing it at
256 + 12/graph returns ~0.24 GiB to the expert arena. MNBT 1024 -> 2048 is
arena-free: the registry overhead is base + 0.22 GiB per 1024 ABOVE its nbt 4096
anchor, and the fitted 5.25 GiB was fitted AT 4096.
2026-10-03 02:22:49 -07:00
Frank ea1132aa0a docs: record the unmeasured CPU-side recipe-diff candidates (HSA knobs, OMP_NUM_THREADS)
All six HSA names verified real by string presence in libhsa-runtime64.so, so
they are knobs and not no-ops — but none is shipped without its own A/B.
2026-10-02 15:15:13 -07:00
Frank 57f33e5289 frank-primary: record the measured shape-E and compile-cache numbers
Live after the 1ac4d48 deploy: 'expert_precise_memory': True, runtime overhead
5.25 GiB, expert cache space 17.22 GiB / 7522 slots, swap region 13.7 GiB /
5986 slots, GPU KV cache 398,658 tokens / 1.99x, pool 3,150,000,000, MNBT 1024
-- the probe's projection is now production.

Compile cache proven on consecutive boots of that shape: cold 'Compiling a
graph for compile range (1, 1024) takes 179.24 s' / 'torch.compile took
188.26 s'; warm 'Directly load the compiled graph(s) ... from the cache, took
2.143 s' / 'torch.compile took 3.97 s in total' / 'init engine ... took 41.13 s
(compilation: 3.98 s)'. Host dir 1.4 GB / 4,707 files. Time to /health stays
payload-bound (490 s warm), so the claim is ~184 s of inductor/AOT build per
restart, not a proportional boot cut.

Tests: 367/367.
2026-10-02 15:05:34 -07:00
Frank 1ac4d48371 frank-primary: shape E — --expert-precise-memory (arena 6,496->7,522 slots), GPU_MAX_HW_QUEUES=2, and a mounted /root/.cache
Measured by boot probe on the shape-D base (production stopped, candidate
booted AS the service), plan numbers read off the engine's own log:

  runtime overhead   7.60 -> 5.25 GiB (precise gfx1201 TP2 registry)
  expert cache      14.87 -> 17.22 GiB
  slots              6,496 -> 7,522 (+1,026, +16%)
  swap region                13.7 GiB / 5,986 slots
  boot                       healthy in 420 s, no OOM

'--expert-precise-memory': True also appears in non-default args, so a silent
argparse drop is visible. The pool is NOT cut (option A) because the pool is
not an arena lever: 3.15e9/rank keeps shape D's measured 1.99x concurrency,
and a 2.2e9 arm probed in the same window (277,686 tokens, 1.38x) is recorded
as the conservative fallback.

Boot-cost bug found while diffing Frank's 3xR9700 recipe: the image ships no
/root/.cache at all, our boot writes 1.1 GB of vLLM AOT/torch_compile
artifacts (4,665 files) plus 229 MB of comgr JIT kernels into the ephemeral
layer, and podman rm -f discards them — so every deploy/restart/reboot re-pays
'torch.compile took 181.20 s in total' (173.19 s of it one graph). Mounting
FRANK_PRIMARY_CACHE_DIR at /root/.cache persists both and hides nothing.

GPU_MAX_HW_QUEUES=2 added at Frank's direction (real HSA knob); not A/B
measured. Retracted my own recipe-diff claim that cudagraph_capture_sizes
needed pinning: capture is 3 PIECEWISE + 2 FULL graphs, 3 s, 0.31 GiB.

Tests: 367/367.
2026-10-02 14:37:57 -07:00
Frank 812193aa63 docs: the bare-deploy drain law + the plex gate fix in the work log
`deploy.sh <target>` with no `--service` also walks the per-service revision
markers and restarts everything behind HEAD whose paths changed — a drain, not
a sync. That is how the latent plex gate bug surfaced: the backlog fired all
at once and plex's http:// readiness probe, which can never succeed against a
PMS that drops plain HTTP off-loopback, burned its full 600 s and aborted the
run with every later service left pending.

Both facts recorded: AGENTS.md gains the drain law under Deployment, log.md
gains the plex entry with the evidence chain.
2026-10-02 12:26:55 -07:00
Frank 656012a0fa docs: LLM index + work log for frank-primary shape D, harness window
index.md intro and mermaid nodes still described 4 x 262144 fp8/bf16 and
frank-small at 2 x 262144; the active-deployment list had no frank-primary
entry at all. Fixed both, plus a malformed GLM list item.

log.md gains the shape-D entry (the SEQS=2 constraint, the arena-lever
measurement, the 2x2 probe table, the measured 1.99x), and the frank-small
entry's stale consequence bullet now points at the resolution.

frank-small runbook: the compaction-fit note is corrected - the 200704 window
moved frank-primary's trigger to 140,492, which fits a 180,224 slot again.
2026-10-02 12:05:39 -07:00
Frank 295d5784d3 frank-primary: record the measured shape-D numbers (398,658 tokens, 1.99x, 6,496 slots)
Comments/docs only - no functional change. The live boot of c769ff2 reported:
  GPU KV cache size: 398,658 tokens,
  Maximum concurrency for 200,704 tokens per request: 1.99x
  expert cache space 14.87 GiB / 6,496 slots of 2.344 MiB

The arena prediction (6,496) landed exactly; the concurrency prediction (2.04x)
did not, because the per-token KV price is SHAPE-DEPENDENT: 7,701 B/token at
MAXLEN 262144 (6.1e9 -> 792,069 tokens) but 7,892 at 200704 (3.146e9 ->
398,658). Never extrapolate a concurrency figure across geometries.

Also smoke-verified: three concurrent 67-token requests answered in parallel,
~4.1 s each - the 3 slots are real, and the pool admits 2 full-length.
2026-10-02 11:48:09 -07:00
Frank c769ff2f63 frank-primary: 3 slots x 200704, fp8, pool sized for 2 contexts
Re-applies the desired shape incrementally on the proven-good fp8 3x262144
base, after bisecting why the first attempt (30904ba) crash-looped.

Root cause: `--max-num-seqs 2` cannot compile on this model. AOT
build_guards(strict_error=True) inside profile_run -> _dummy_run specializes
`query_start_loc`'s width to SEQS + 1 (3 at SEQS 2, 4 at SEQS 3) and the
ConstraintViolationError kills engine init ~7 min in. MNBT is orthogonal:
SEQS 2 failed at MNBT 1024 AND 2048; SEQS 3 passed at both. KV dtype was a
red herring. Measured by four single-variable boot probes.

Arena lever measured: the expert arena is sized from `max_model_len` via the
registry-priced KV reserve (9190 B/token x max_model_len), NOT from
--kv-cache-memory-bytes. 262144 -> 14.30 GiB / 6,248 slots; 200704 ->
14.87 GiB / 6,496 slots. The 6.1e9 -> 3.15e9 pool cut bought zero arena and
is a runtime-headroom lever.

Shape: MAXLEN 200704, SEQS 3 (unchanged - the only slot count that compiles),
KV_BYTES 3.15e9/rank = 2.04x full-length concurrency at 7,701 B/token fp8,
MNBT 1024, gather 32x64, no spec decode, no prefetch, no precise-memory.
2026-10-02 11:33:27 -07:00
Comrade Chief Designer 30904bac1b frank-primary: 2 x 200704 fp8, pool cut for the expert arena, MNBT 1024
The 2026-10-01 bf16 shape (2 x 262144, --expert-precise-memory)
crash-looped at graph capture — the arena is DEVICE-resident and that
shape had 0.13 GiB to spare. The plain bf16 2 x 262144 also did not stay
up: 0 bytes free at runtime, and a real client request (995-token prompt,
max_tokens=261149) killed the worker with .

The correction is a pool cut, not a downgrade. FP8 KV (7,701 B/token),
two 200704 windows (401,408 tokens -> 3.091e9 B floor, pinned 3.15e9),
MNBT 1024. The fork's expert planner sizes the arena AFTER the KV
override, so the ~2.95 GiB/rank reclaimed becomes arena: ~7,500 slots
vs 6,248. Two contexts at 200704 is a capacity contract, not a
throughput one (2-way concurrency summed BELOW parity at 4064 ctx), so
the slot buys the VRAM headroom long generations need.

Refs [[dankserver-qwen38-fp8-expert-offload-tuning]].

- scripts/frank-primary.env: MAXLEN 200704, SEQS 2, KV_BYTES 3.15e9,
  MNBT 1024, rewritten shape comment
- scripts/serve-frank-primary.sh: header comment updated
- tests/frank_primary_unit.bats: assertions updated, new seam pins the
  arena-floor pool law (the pool must move with a context change or the
  reduction buys nothing)
- docs + AGENTS.md: fleet topology and deployed shape corrected
2026-10-02 09:54:08 -07:00
Frank 934285c2b2 docs(frank-small): record the 3 x 180,224 + vision shape and what it cost
Runbook, both indexes, AGENTS.md (topology row, endpoint section, three new
Key Lessons, one stale SGLang label in the bench list) and the bundle log now
describe the deployed shape: pool 540,672, 180,224 tokens per conversation,
f16 K + q8_0 V, mmproj vision, 21,684 used / 2,441 free of 24,576 MiB, 106.8
tok/s decode, 3,814 t/s prefill.

The claims that mattered:
- three contexts buy 180,224 tokens per conversation, not the native 262,144,
  and a longer prompt is a hard 400 - so models.yml contextWindow is 180224
  and frank-primary's 183,501-token compaction request no longer fits here
  (forward pointer added to the retired SGLang runbook, which asserted it)
- the vision tower bills ~1.4 GiB for a 918 MB file, established by subtracting
  two measured boots, not by a formula
- /v1/chat/completions ignores the legacy top-level 'images' field: the model
  invents a color; only the image_url content part reaches it
2026-10-02 03:46:50 -07:00
Frank 8f129180d8 docs+scripts: reconcile payload inventory after both swaps
Staged 59 GiB of retired LLM payloads on Dankclaw to
~dank/.AGENTTRASH/20261002-retired-llm-payloads/ (vLLM MiMo BF16, Qwen3.5-9B
MTP source, both DFlash dirs, Gemma4-12B-QAT, SGLang MiMo INT8) and corrected
every doc claim about what is on disk: gufo's rollback pair (Q4_K_XL weights +
the Q8_K_XL DFlash2 drafter) and frank-small's Q6_K stay in place, so the
rollback paths in the tags' env files still resolve. The vLLM-era frank-large
fetch trio moves to old/ with its runtime; runbook links updated.
2026-10-02 02:31:39 -07:00
Frank 72bd4c967e docs: record the 2026-10-02 swaps — frank-large on ROCmFPX, frank-small on Q5_K_M
frank-large: new runbook frank-large-rocmfpx-q8agent-mtp.md — the ftype-115
tensor-type lock-in that forced the fork, the pinned build (set_rows history),
the measured MTP A/B (17.0 vs 7.6 t/s decode, acceptance 0.462), the live
client contract (reasoning_content, effort fold, vision restored) and rollback.
frank-small: new runbook frank-small-llama-mimo-q5km.md; q6k marked retired
(rollback target). gufo runbook marked retired (rollback target). Both indexes,
the fleet topology table, the vision/models.yml notes, the benchmarking law and
three new Key Lessons updated.
2026-10-02 01:51:11 -07:00
Frank a7c68db9d0 docs: record the frank-small llama.cpp Q6_K cutover and the frank-large gufo rollback 2026-10-01 23:50:52 -07:00
Frank 3c339eeba2 frank-large: record deployed boot facts (pool 819,332 tokens, 3.13x, 230 s)
Live battery green after deploy #3: alias, reasoning split into
`reasoning`, tool_calls, /metrics acceptance pos0 69% pos1 44% - the
cross-model MTP head performs as measured in the bench window.
2026-10-01 19:48:56 -07:00
Frank 780c307354 frank-large: hand vLLM the CONTAINER model path; link the new runbook
The first crash-looping boot (51 restarts): serve received the host path
/home/dank/models/... but the models tree is mounted at /models inside the
container, so transformers failed 'Repo id must be in the form
namespace/repo_name' before the engine even built. Same conversion the spec
draft already used. Pinned by bats. Root docs index links the new runbook
(seam required it) and the work log records the crash-loop plus the 52 G
payload reclaim.
2026-10-01 19:39:55 -07:00
Frank 1127a52078 docs: frank-large vLLM MiMo-BF16 runbook; retire the gufo runbook
New runbook carries the roof math, the measured three-arm spec table, the
greedy-text numerics trap, the reasoning-field contract change and the
rollback tag. LLM index and AGENTS.md fleet table, bench policy and runbook
index follow; the frank-small index entries catch up to the SGLang cutover
(entry was missed on 2026-10-01). Work log records the cutover.
2026-10-01 18:48:51 -07:00
Frank e703b0c15c frank-primary: restore fp8 3x262144 (bf16 boot fails on a dynamo constraint)
bf16 at 2 x 262144 fails with and without --expert-precise-memory. The real
error (captured from the journal this time, container fixed via journald
rather than podman logs):

  RuntimeError: Worker failed with error 'Constraints violated
  (L['query_start_loc'].size()[0])! You marked it as dynamic but your code
  specialized it to be a constant (3)'

- a torch.compile/dynamo dynamic-shape violation, NOT an OOM. Ruled out a
  stale compile cache: ~/.cache/vllm holds only modelinfos (16K) and each
  podman run gets a fresh container filesystem.

The deltas from the last shape measured serving (fp8 3 x 262144 / MNBT 2048 /
792,069 tokens / 3.02x / arena 6,248) are KV dtype (fp8 -> bf16) and SEQS
(3 -> 2). Restoring the known-good shape; bisect bf16 vs SEQS in a window,
with --enforce-eager as the bypass.
2026-10-01 14:40:17 -07:00
Frank d3d180fd3f frank-primary: drop --expert-precise-memory (boot crash loop with bf16)
NRestarts climbed to 3, each attempt ~6.7 min then 'Deactivated successfully'
(API server drains after an EngineCore fatal error; Restart=always turned the
silent death into a visible loop). The arena is device-resident, so the budget
decides it: weights 6.28 + pool 6.80 (bf16 2 x 262144) + graphs 0.55 + arena
16.65 (precise overhead 5.25) + non-torch 1.45 = 31.73 of 31.86 GiB -> ~0.13
GiB free at boot, and graph capture is what allocates transiently.

Dropping the flag restores the 7.60 GiB default overhead: arena 14.31 GiB,
total ~29.4 GiB, ~2.4 GiB free. bf16 2 x 262144 (Frank's KV change) stays.
The serve script keeps the opt-in flag; the seam now asserts it is ABSENT.
2026-10-01 14:16:47 -07:00
Frank db54fa3af1 frank-small: record 2x262144 verification numbers
Live-verified post-deploy: context_len=262144, max_running_requests=2,
max_total_num_tokens=606208 in the boot log; a 200,000-token prompt
(compaction height is 183,501) prefilled+completed in one request
(97.3 s, ~2,056 tok/s eager); two concurrent 50k requests answered.
Docs-only change.
2026-10-01 14:08:51 -07:00
Frank 8029119b19 frank-large: Q4_K_XL payload + 4 x 163840 sessions (f16 KV)
Frank's call. Payload: ajgazin's abliterated Swift-1.5 UD-Q8_K_XL (29.3 GiB,
SWIFT OPEN LICENSE) -> unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-GGUF UD-Q4_K_XL (16.35 GiB,
sha256 3f227079...b01e, vanilla/Apache-2.0). NOTE: the endpoint is no longer
uncensored — that was one of the reasons for the Swift payload on 2026-09-28.

New fetcher scripts/download-frank-large-q4.sh (no auth header: repo is public
and ungated; size + sha256 verified after transfer). The speculative drafter
and its fetcher are unchanged.

Shape: --sessions 4 --context 163840 with unquantized KV. gufo exposes no KV
quantization lever (execution_policy.hpp pins kv_cache_storage to kFp16), so
f16 is inherent.

KV arithmetic: f16 KV = 64 KiB/token (16 full-attention layers x 4 KV heads x
256 head_dim x 2 x 2B; the other 48 layers are linear-attention with a
per-sequence fp32 state). 4 x 163840 = 655,360 tokens = 40.0 GiB KV, each
session exactly 10 GiB. Budget ~62 GiB of the 114 GiB GTT.

Seam retargeted (FETCH -> the q4 script, TARGET_STUB, context/sessions pins).
2026-10-01 14:08:50 -07:00
Frank 35e24db7e6 frank-small: reslice to 2 x 262,144 native slots (was 4 x 151,552)
The KV pool stays pinned at 606,208 tokens (card is full: 531 MiB free at
the old shape; autofit's 687,388 would leave 0.53 GB and OOM on the first
long request). 2 x 262,144 = 524,288 leaves ~82k tokens of pool slack.

Motivation: harness compaction. frank-primary's contextWindow 262,144
compacts at 70% = 183,501 tokens, and the compaction request carries a
32,768-token summary budget -> 216,269 must fit ONE frank-small request.
The 151,552 slot window could not hold it; the native window does.

No spec-decode interaction: checkpoint ships zero mtp.* tensors (config
lies), seam keeps every --speculative-* flag away from the engine.
2026-10-01 14:03:25 -07:00
Frank 389b605baf frank-primary: 2 bf16 windows + --expert-precise-memory
Both of Frank's changes at once.

KV is bf16 (--kv-cache-dtype auto) at two full-size windows (2 x 262144).
bf16 measures 13,839 B/token (bf16 3x241664 boot: 11,047,010,304 B -> 798,280
tokens), decomposing as 12,276 attention + 1,563 mamba/side caches vs fp8's
6,138 + 1,563 = 7,701. 524,288 tokens needs 7.256e9 B; pinned at 7.3e9
(~527,500 tokens, 3,206 margin). Pool cost: 5.68 -> 6.76 GiB per rank.

--expert-precise-memory selects the fitted overhead (5.25 GiB) over the default
(7.60 GiB = fitted + compile/graph-capture headroom). It moves only the plan's
 term, so the expert arena goes 6,248 -> ~7,278 slots (~1,025 more) at the
cost of boot-time capture slack. Overhead adds 0.22 GiB/1024 nbt above 4096, so
MNBT 2048 pays nothing.

Seam + docs + AGENTS row + log updated.
2026-10-01 13:52:13 -07:00
Frank 3f1860aa5f docs(log): record e2e 12-crawl flakiness (Plex redirect + transient ERR_ABORTED)
The gate failed twice in the same spec for two different reasons and then passed
33/33 on a manual re-run. Future sessions should re-run before treating the
DEPLOY INCOMPLETE banner as a real fleet fault.
2026-10-01 13:40:24 -07:00
Frank a1b650aabc frank-primary: 3 full windows, pool at the contract floor, MNBT 2048
Frank's call 2026-10-01: MAXLEN 262144 x SEQS 3 = 786,432 tokens of contract.
Measured fp8 KV costs 7,698 B/token (4-slot boot 8,311,013,376 B -> 1,079,582
tokens; 5-slot boot 10,388,766,720 B -> 1,350,182 tokens), so the pool floor
for the contract is 6.054e9 B. Pinned at 6,100,000,000 (~792k tokens, ~5.9k
margin) so the remaining ~2.2 GiB versus the 4-slot shape goes to the expert
ARENA - the fork sizes its decode-critical expert cache from the remainder
after weights, pool and workspace.

MNBT 2048 (Frank): the arena sweep measured 6,499 slots at every rung <= 4096,
so the larger batch costs the arena nothing.

Seam retargeted (3 seqs / 6.1e9 / MNBT 2048); docs + AGENTS row + log updated,
including the closed DCP investigation.
2026-10-01 13:25:27 -07:00
Frank 6bbcaf3999 docs(frank-primary): parallelism survey — DCP rejected on 2 GPUs (GQA constraint)
--decode-context-parallel-size 2 fails VllmConfig validation at boot:
'Decode context parallelism for GQA/MQA requires --tensor-parallel-size (2) to
be greater than the model's total number of KV heads (2)'. DCP shards KV along
the sequence dimension AFTER KV heads spread across TP ranks, so it needs
TP > num_kv_heads; this model has 2 KV heads, so TP >= 4 — four GPUs, not two.
Recorded with the rest of the survey (PP/DP/EP/multi-node verdicts for this
box), the container-injection requirement for /home/dank/mtp_measure.py
(it imports /bench_iter.py by absolute path and must be copied in), and the
re-measured deployed capacity (1,079,582 tokens / 4.12x).
2026-10-01 13:17:45 -07:00
Frank 0c5e054fb8 frank-small: SGLang MiMo-V2.6-Distill-Qwen-9B INT8 (qwen3_5 hybrid, RTX 3090)
Replaces llama.cpp Gemma4-12B-QAT (payload + binary retained as rollback).
SGLang in a self-contained python3.12 venv with an extracted CUDA 13.0
nvcc toolchain for the sgl-kernel/flashinfer JIT.

Shape: fp8 KV, pinned 606,208-token pool / 4 x 151,552 slots, bf16 mamba
states pinned at 32 slots (the engine autofills the ssm pool to a fixed
~5.1 GB regardless of dtype), eager prefill (no headroom for graph
capture), no spec decode (the checkpoint ships no mtp.* tensors despite
mtp_num_hidden_layers=1 — NEXTN drafts with an uninitialised 4.24 GiB
ghost at 0% acceptance).

Verified: 83.9 tok/s decode, 170k single prompt, 4 concurrent 54k
requests, vision (in-checkpoint tower), reasoning_content field.
2026-10-01 06:55:48 -07:00
Frank 7da504a651 frank-primary: four full windows + Restart=always (runtime survivability)
Five 262144-token contexts passed every boot gate (KV 1,350,182 / 5.15x) but
left 0 bytes free at runtime: a real client request (995-token prompt,
max_tokens=261149, sampling params straight from models.yml) killed Worker_TP1
with torch.OutOfMemoryError 'Tried to allocate 50.00 MiB ... 0 bytes free'.
Boot is not proof of runtime survivability.

Four slots x 262144 fp8 (KV_BYTES 8,311,013,376/rank) returns ~1.93 GiB per
rank for activations/graph capture.

Unit: Restart=always instead of on-failure — a runtime worker fault makes
vLLM's API server exit clean, so ExecStart returned 0 and on-failure never
fired, leaving the endpoint down until a human noticed. Also
StartLimitIntervalSec=0 and OOMScoreAdjust=-500.
2026-10-01 04:14:25 -07:00
Frank bd311bf591 frank-primary: 5 x full 262144 contexts at fp8 (final shape)
Frank's call after the night ladder: five contexts at the model's full native
262,144 window beat six shortened ones. Six full-length contexts do NOT fit at
any KV dtype (6 x 241664 fp8 asked 10.70 GiB against 9.18 GiB free — the
6-seq graph/activation footprint leaves too little for the pool); 5 x 262144
at fp8 PASSED on the first rung: KV_BYTES 10,388,766,720/rank, measured
'GPU KV cache size: 1,350,182 tokens, Maximum concurrency for 262,144 tokens
per request: 5.15x' (39,462 tokens of margin).

Also documented: the SEQS=3 bf16 max (241,664, KV 732,359 / 3.03x) measured
earlier the same night, and the root-cause read that the 7.2 GiB KV ceiling
law was the MTP4 workspace, not VRAM. Seam and harness (contextWindow 262144)
re-pinned.
2026-10-01 03:52:10 -07:00
Frank 7cab15ac39 frank-primary: max-possible window (241664) + reasoning/tool contract
Night ladder result (Frank's subtract-16k method): 262144 and 245760 both OOM
at CUDA graph capture ('Tried to allocate 76.00 MiB ... 0 bytes free'), 237568
passed (KV 718,606 tokens), and the +4096 bonus step PASSED -> 241664 is max
possible and DEPLOYED at util 0.98 (KV 732,359 tokens / 3.03x concurrency at
241,664-token requests). Util stays 0.98: lowering it shrinks the engine's own
budget instead of buying slack.

Client contract restored (the GLM rollback d91379d dropped all three and the
qwen rollback inherited the gap): --reasoning-parser qwen3 fixes the malformed
thinking block (thinking was landing inline in content with a dangling
</think> and a null reasoning field), --enable-auto-tool-choice with
--tool-call-parser qwen3_xml makes tools work, and
--default-chat-template-kwargs enables enable_thinking + preserve_thinking.

Harness: contextWindow 241664 (compaction gap recomputed), preserve_thinking
moved into chat_template_kwargs.
2026-10-01 03:08:52 -07:00
Frank 26f6f82c98 frank-primary: qwen cutover docs + deployer identity + seam re-pin
- AGENTS.md: fleet table + frank-primary section back to qwen FP8 + MTP4
  (37.4-40.6 tok/s, 54% acceptance); GLM runbook moved to the retired index.
- runbook: RETIRED verdict — DFlash2 drafter served and drafted but
  acceptance pinned 1.00-1.38 on every text class including verbatim
  repetition (mis-wired aux capture, not a weak drafter); 5x slower than
  baseline at ~1.2 acceptance.
- log.md: 2026-10-01 rollback entry.
- deploy-remote.sh: LLM_PRIMARY_CONTAINER back to frank-primary-qwen;
  glm-probe joins the legacy sweep list.
- frank_primary_unit.bats: re-pinned to the qwen shape — KV qualification
  law (7.2 GiB/rank, 3.65x concurrency; 9/16 GiB OOM), fp8 q8/q8 KV
  PRESENT, MTP4 PRESENT (3.1-3.4x over the 12.11 no-spec baseline), no tool
  dialect, automatic offload. The old 'MTP buys zero' law carried the
  prefetch tax and is retired.
2026-09-30 20:24:49 -07:00
Frank 9198da375f docs: dflash KV journey — 03 verified (drafter graphs capture), 04 capacity/aliasing wall 2026-09-30 19:22:45 -07:00
Frank 2bc2f8c833 llm: patch 03 - pin the kpool tail block through the unifier
Patch 02 (MLA-multiple max page) cleared the KV page-size unifier: the
dflash boot now reaches cudagraph capture. New blocker: the kpool decode
kernel asserts tail_kv_cache.shape[2] == pool_size; KpoolTailSpec pins
block_size == index_kpool, so the unifier's divisible branch must never
grow it. Patch 03 = 02 + a KpoolTailSpec branch that pads page_size_padded
instead. Apply-verified: reproduces patched sha 5093e4b7... Runbook
updated with the full KV grouping journey.
2026-09-30 18:38:53 -07:00
Frank a1f14a1c0f docs: dflash patch v5 clears the EAGLE3 gate — wrapper is the real target
Runbook: the five-version evolution recorded, each trap named (method
hand-write, Protocol-base MRO kill, wrong-wrapper attrs). The decisive
discovery: the runner checks the LOADED instance, which for GLM-5.3-Flash
is the multimodal Glm5NextForConditionalGeneration holding the text model
as self.language_model — v4's attrs on Glm5NextForCausalLM were invisible
to it. v5 (attrs + methods on both wrappers) passes: both TP workers log
'Using Eagle3 auxiliary layers from config: (6, 15, 25, 34, ...)' and the
DFlash2 drafter resolves + loads. Log: the DFlash bullet updated from
'the trunk simply does not implement' to 'gap closed; serving end state
still unproven (window RAM contention interrupted the boot twice)'.
2026-09-30 17:59:35 -07:00
Frank 9c5c2494da patches: glm53-dflash-01 v2 -- satisfy SupportsEagle3 by inheriting the Protocol
v1 hand-wrote set_aux_hidden_state_layers/get_eagle3_default_aux_hidden_state_layers
and the boot reproduced the identical 'Model does not support EAGLE3 interface'.
Reason: supports_eagle3() is an isinstance check against a runtime-checkable
Protocol whose members include a required ClassVar flag
(interfaces.py:1663 supports_eagle3: ClassVar[Literal[True]] = True), so methods
alone do not satisfy it. Inheriting SupportsEagle3 -- the idiom every model in
this image uses, including the fork's own DFlashLagunaForCausalLM -- supplies the
flag, SupportsEagleBase's has_own_lm_head/has_own_embed_tokens, and working
default implementations of both methods; the hand-written methods are deleted.

base 008eeaa2... -> patched 5eea89c5..., apply-verified against the pinned image.
Runbook: corrected method name, recorded the Protocol trap as the generalizable
lesson for future spec-decode ports.
2026-09-30 16:53:24 -07:00
Comrade Chief Designer 3cf543ead6 frank-primary: fork-bomb hazard, patch 06 documented, retired probe
Recording the incident: a diagnostic sitecustomize.py mounted at /probe on PYTHONPATH
produced a self-replicating chain of python3 processes 19+ levels deep inside the probe
container (sitecustomize runs in EVERY interpreter; the hook imported torch/vLLM at
startup; something in that import chain spawned a helper python which inherited
PYTHONPATH and the hook, and spawned again). Found alive 18 minutes later, 33 probe-tagged
processes. Killed with 'podman rm -f glm-probe' (the container cgroup owns every
generation) and verified by counting /proc/<pid>/environ for the marker variable --
never by pattern-killing an interpreter name, since this host runs python in production
containers (romm, jellyfin, plex, glances). Fixed at the source with an env marker that
children inherit, verified with a two-generation test: gen 1 installs, gen 2 stays inert.

The runbook now carries the hazard, the guard, the kill recipe, the conjunction the
restore must verify, and the no-overlapping-jobs rule. Patch 06
(glm53-dflash-01-aux-hidden-states.patch) is documented in the DFlash2 section, and the
/probe diagnostic is marked retired -- TORCH_LOGS answers dynamo questions with no
startup hook.

tests/run.sh: 362 seams pass.
2026-09-30 16:24:16 -07:00
Comrade Chief Designer 0465b9b5a7 frank-primary: pin down the compile blocker — a name-resolution KeyError in an inlined callee
Five runs of the changelist now reproduce the same single failure with breaks genuinely
tolerated (patch 01+02+03+04, VLLM_COMPILE_FULLGRAPH=0, VLLM_USE_AOT_COMPILE=0,
R4D_GLM_FUSE_QKV_RMSNORM=0): the trunk TRACES ('Dynamo bytecode transform time: 1.08 s')
and the boot dies on KeyError: 'in_proj_qkvbfg_a'.

What it is NOT, each ruled out by measurement rather than argument:
 - not one of dynamo's four nn_modules lookups: /home/dank/dynamo-probe wraps three of
   them and stayed silent over two runs, with the probe's install line confirmed in both
   the API-server and worker processes;
 - not a dynamo-internal failure: TORCHDYNAMO_VERBOSE=1 adds no internal stack trace;
 - not a literal string lookup: the name appears tree-wide only as the KDA layer's
   attribute (kda.py:217, used at :407) and in the load_weights shard table
   (model.py:780-785); the four  sites in the
   quantization utils do compute exactly this bare key but every one is guarded
   (), so none can raise it;
 - not the pluggable-layer registry, which is keyed by class name.

What it IS: a plain Python KeyError raised inside the traced
Glm5NextDecoderLayer.forward, in a callee dynamo INLINED (frame chain
profile_run -> _dummy_run -> execute_model -> glm4_1v.py:2358 -> the compile wrapper ->
eval_frame.compile_wrapper -> Glm5NextModel.forward:748 -> module._call_impl ->
Glm5NextDecoderLayer.forward:456; the reported line is that method's def line, which is
how inlined frames surface).

Patch 03's header and the runbook now record the remaining instrument (TORCH_LOGS=+dynamo
and grep, or wrap the inlining candidates — the mHC CustomOps and the indexer op — with a
KeyError probe), and the two breaks that are real but non-fatal in this configuration
(patch 04's fused-norm launcher cell, patch 05's workspace acquisition).

tests/run.sh: 362 seams pass.
2026-09-30 15:39:10 -07:00
Comrade Chief Designer 62779aa237 frank-primary: document the experiment-window trap that faked two successful restores
This engine ignores SIGTERM: after systemctl stop its container sits in podman ps
state 'Stopping' for 20+ minutes WHILE STILL ANSWERING /health with 200. So a liveness
probe is a lying oracle for a window restore — twice a restore reported PROD HEALTHY
while systemctl is-active said failed and the runtime mask was still in place, because
the old container was still serving.

Records the conjunction the restore must verify (is-active == active AND is-enabled ==
enabled AND no /run/systemd/system/<unit> mask symlink AND the container is owned by
the unit and not Stopping) and the four-step repair recipe (mv the runtime mask away —
it survives stop and blocks start; daemon-reload; reset-failed — a failed unit refuses
to start; podman rm -f — podman stop hangs on the same SIGTERM).

Also records the overlap hazard: a later job's 'podman rm -f glm-probe' cleanup
deleted an in-flight job's container, so one compile round produced no evidence at all
('no container with name glm-probe found'). Check proc:// for running jobs before
opening a window.

tests/run.sh: 362 seams pass.
2026-09-30 14:54:07 -07:00
Comrade Chief Designer 71db0debcc frank-primary: patch 05, five verified artifacts, and correct the wrong confound theory
Root-caused the moving failures: they were my own scratch launcher. Its compile
branches were restructured and the '-e VLLM_COMPILE_FULLGRAPH=0' line was dropped, so
four consecutive boots mounted the wrapper patch while _FULLGRAPH still defaulted to
True — and with fullgraph=True EVERY break is an error, so each boot reported whichever
break came first (cell -> workspace -> compiler-disable). I had blamed
TORCH_LOGS=graph_breaks for the difference; that was wrong, the flag only logs. The
launcher sets the env var again, and patch 04's header, the runbook and the work log
now carry the true run history as a table instead of the bad theory.

New artifact: scripts/patches/glm53-compile-05-workspace-acquisition-opaque.patch —
the indexer acquires its shared workspace INSIDE the forward (its profile-run branch
literally says 'Reserve workspace for indexer during profiling run'), and
v1/worker/workspace.py:_ensure_workspace_size reads ContextVar/ubatch state, which
dynamo cannot trace. Wrap both call sites in a torch.compiler.disable'd helper
(narrower than decorating the workspace manager, which every model would go through;
a no-op when not compiling).

All five artifacts verified against the pinned image: applied in sequence with patch
-p1 they reproduce their recorded patched sha256 exactly (6e9cb81b…, 0751852e…,
732363bb…, 84969993…, c154115a…).

tests/run.sh: 362 seams pass.
2026-09-30 14:19:25 -07:00
Comrade Chief Designer fd864b5a42 frank-primary: compile changelist — real diffs, break diagnostics, patch 04, corrected overclaim
Working the dyno name-map blocker one step at a time, with the tools to see it:

- All four patch artifacts are now genuine diff -u patches (they were prose + pseudo
  hunks before, useless to patch(1)). Verified against the pinned image: each applies
  clean and reproduces its recorded patched sha256 (6e9cb81b… / 0751852e… / 732363bb…
  / 84969993…).
- New: scripts/patches/glm53-compile-04-fused-qkv-rmsnorm-optout.patch — takes GLM's
  MLA block off the fused-norm JIT kernel (R4D_GLM_FUSE_QKV_RMSNORM=0; the flag is
  already a constructor arg glm5next sets at attention.py:583). Reason: in
  models/common/ops/fused_qk_rmsnorm.py the kernel object is bound at line 223, AFTER
  its use at line 211 — the launcher family (@kernel_launcher, 39 call sites) is what
  breaks dynamo's break analysis.
- New diagnostics, both reusable and recorded: TORCH_LOGS=graph_breaks +
  VLLM_USE_AOT_COMPILE=0 to name each break with its user stack, and
  /home/dank/dynamo-probe (sitecustomize.py on PYTHONPATH, VLLM_DYNAMO_DUMP_ATTRS=1)
  to print the dynamo name-map miss detail. Gotchas: a .pth on PYTHONPATH is NOT
  executed, and the scratch launcher reset ENVARGS (now ${ENVARGS:-}), which silently
  dropped env vars and wasted a boot.

Measurement discipline correction: I first recorded the 'Read uninitialized cell' and
'Unsupported method call' failures as fatal blockers. They are not established as
such — they appear only when TORCH_LOGS=graph_breaks is set, while a flag-free
break-tolerance run gets past break handling and dies on the name-map KeyError. The
likely mechanism is that graph_breaks logging makes dynamo build a break
*explanation*, and that analysis itself trips on the uninitialized cell. Patch 04's
header, the runbook and the work log now carry the confound explicitly rather than
the overclaim.

tests/run.sh: 362 seams pass.
2026-09-30 13:59:09 -07:00
Comrade Chief Designer 1c18b9c808 frank-primary: DFlash2 load attempt + fp8 verdict + compile blocker narrowed
DFlash2: fetched incoai/GLM-5.3-Flash-DFlash2 (2,342,169,800 B, sha256 matches the
Hub LFS oid) and tried --speculative-config {"method":"dflash","model":"/draft"}.
Config and drafter are accepted; the worker dies with 'Model does not support
EAGLE3 interface' - so the only gap is the target-side aux-hidden-state contract
(set_aux_hidden_state_layers + per-layer capture + the two-value forward return,
as deepseek_v2.py demonstrates twice in this image). Recorded the exact interface,
the GLM-specific unknown (what the single-stream state entering layer k means for
an mHC multi-stream trunk) and the honest expectation: no speedup on a
token-proportional pointwise bound.

fp8 KV: recorded the deciding measurement - the fork's KV reserve model is
dtype-blind (the fp8 boot printed the identical 1760 MiB / 13600 B-per-token plan),
so fp8 cannot buy capacity even if the gfx12 MLA path were rewritten. Verdict: do
not spend effort there.

Compile blocker narrowed from 'a latent GLM bug' to dynamo's name map: the
KeyError is thrown by torch/_dynamo/output_graph.py's nn_modules lookup (:3000,
registered :1259/:1384, _modules[..] prefixes stripped :1225), i.e. the compiler
cannot resolve a submodule by name while tracing the decoder layer. Next step is
TORCHDYNAMO_VERBOSE=1, with the note that the scratch launcher resets ENVARGS.

tests/run.sh: 362 seams pass.
2026-09-30 12:49:26 -07:00
Comrade Chief Designer bd8c72ff47 frank-primary: profile the GLM decode step and stage the compile changelist
A torch-profiler kernel-time window (496 decode tokens, rank0 trace parsed for
device-activity time) on the deployed GLM-5.3-Flash shape falsifies this page's
own "the expert gather is the bound" explanation:

  46.18 s of kernel time / 496 tokens = ~93 ms per token (actual step ~104 ms)
   34.8 %  vectorized_elementwise_kernel      708,500 launches (1,428/token)
   10.0 %  r4d_gemm_moe_w4a16_nt_b16_m64      (the MoE GEMM)
    6.7 %  elementwise_kernel_manual_unroll
    6.4 %  wvSplitK_hf_sml_                    (split-K GEMM)
    8.9 %  router: sbtopk + warpMergeSortTopK + bitonicSortKVInPlace
    6.5 %  r4d_mhc_*                           (hyper-connections)
    1.05 % r4d_moe_lru_gather_kernel           <-- the retracted suspect

The earlier arithmetic was circular (it assumed the gather consumed the whole
step). The real bound is unfused pointwise glue: the fork compiles its own Qwen
trunk (support_torch_compile in models/qwen4_exp/amd/model.py) and not its GLM
trunk, so the engine boots with "provides neither a compiled submodule nor
breakable CUDA graphs. Overriding to FULL_DECODE_ONLY." That also explains why
MTP4 measured flat — pointwise cost scales with the token count, so spec decode
amortizes nothing here — and it retires arena/hit-rate tuning (the gather is 1 %).

Staged as documented patch artifacts (not wired into any serve script; the
engine does not yet boot with them) — scripts/patches/glm53-compile-0{1,2,3}*.patch:

  -01 models/glm5next/common/model.py    decorate Glm5NextModel (R4D_GLM_COMPILE)
  -02 model_executor/kernels/r4d_lib.py  freeze 10 capability probes that do
      os.path.exists/.so lookups inside the traced forward. functools.lru_cache
      does NOT protect them: dynamo re-traces the wrapped body even when warm
      (verified in-image); a plain module-global read compiles.
  -03 compilation/wrapper.py             make fullgraph=True opt-out, because
      suppress_errors does NOT cover graph breaks and this trunk can never
      satisfy fullgraph (indexer metadata syncs to host — .item() at
      glm5next/amd/sparse_indexer.py:263,419).

With all three the trunk traces (Dynamo bytecode transform time 1.08 s) and dies
on KeyError: in_proj_qkvbfg_a in the mHC/KDA path — a latent bug the compile
exposes, and the remaining blocker.

Also records two structural constraints: no new HIP kernels are possible (r4d.so
ships without sources), which binary-blocks the fused router at GLM's 288
experts; and DFlash2 for GLM is a TARGET-side port, not a drafter port
(incoai/GLM-5.3-Flash-DFlash2 is architectures ["DFlash2DraftModel"] +
model_type qwen3, already mapped at registry.py:636; glm5next lacks only the
aux-hidden-state plumbing deepseek_v2.py demonstrates).

Runbook frontmatter, intro, mermaid and wall section, AGENTS.md and the work log
corrected to match the measurement. tests/run.sh: 362 seams pass.
2026-09-30 09:36:48 -07:00