docs(kv): add bit-density KV cache quant table across 3 runtimes

- Place ik's Trellis (IQ*_KT), IQK (IQ*_K), MXFP4, and dedicated fast KV type
  Q8_KV in a single high->low bits-per-value table with ROCmFPX TurboQuant KV.
- Mark mainline-provided types (*), KV-native vs weight-family-reused-for-KV.
- Hadamard annotated as a transform on top of a base quant, not a row.
- bpw read from exact ggml block structs (QK_K=256, fp16 scale): type_size x 8 / QK,
  verified against the struct comment "6.5625 bits per weight" and the trait table.
  Notes where legacy nominal figures (4.0/4.25) diverge.
- AGENTS.md: add benchmark directive (use llama-bench / vllm bench; ask before
  rolling your own).
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service is up starves the GPU and corrupts results. Restart the service when
the bench finishes.
ALWAYS bench using llama-bench for llama.cpp or vllm bench for vllm runtimes.
DO NOT ROLL YOUR OWN BENCH UNLESS YOU CANNOT TEST THE DESIRED PARAMETER WITH THE OFFICIAL BENCHES. ASK THE USER BEFORE DEVIATING FROM THIS DIRECTIVE.
1. Stop the service before any benchmark:
`sudo systemctl stop frank-default-small` (Dankserver) or
`sudo systemctl stop frank-default-large` (Dankclaw).
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| `ggml/src/ggml-quants.*` | K/I/legacy dequant, row-interleaved 3-bit | `block_rocmfp4` unpack + E4M3 scaling, IU4 WMMA dispatch | `iqk/*` fused quant-gemms, IQK row-interleave, Trellis decode |
| `tools/quantize/quantize.c` | all mainline quants + `--imatrix` | ROCmFPX quantizer (`STRIX`/`FAST`/`_AGENT` presets) | IQK/Trellis/MXFP4 packers, `--cache-type-k/v` + Hadamard |
| `gguf.cpp` / `gguf-io.c` | standard ftype table | **custom ftypes** 100–106 (FP4), 110–113 (FPX), 118 (I4) | IQK/Trellis ftype tags |
| KV cache | `f32/f16/bf16/q8_0/q4_0/iq4_nl/q5_0/q5_1` (needs FlashAttention) | **TurboQuant** `Turbo3_0`/`Turbo4_0`/`V` | `Q8_KV`, `--k-cache-hadamard`, `--v-cache-hadamard` |
| KV cache | `f32/f16/bf16/q8_0/q4_0/q4_1/iq4_nl/q5_0/q5_1` (needs FlashAttention) | **TurboQuant** `Turbo3_0`/`Turbo4_0`/`V` | `Q8_KV`, IQK/Trellis/MXFP4 reused in `-ctk`, `--k-cache-hadamard`, `--v-cache-hadamard` |
Two number spaces in ROCmFPX (authoritative `ggml/include/ggml.h`, sha
`c49ebdbd`):
@@ -107,6 +107,95 @@ MXFP4 variants, or skip `-rtr` and place tensors with `--fit`/`-ot`.
- **Mainline on Strix** works for correctness with standard quants but loses FPX,
IU4, TurboQuant, and MTEA.
## 6. KV cache quant table
Bit-density-ordered comparison of everything usable in the **KV cache** (`-ctk`
key / `-ctv` value, and draft `-ctkd`/`-ctvd`). Order is high → low bits-per-
value. Columns mark **origin** (`*` = mainline-provided) and whether the type is
**KV-native** (designed for the cache) or **weight-family reused for KV** (a
model-weight quant the runtime also accepts in `-ctk`/`-ctv`).
**How bpw is read here.** `bpw = ggml_type_size × 8 / QK`, computed from the
exact block structs in `ggml.h` / `ggml-common.h` (`QK_K = 256`, fp16 scale).
This is the true in-RAM cost per value, so it is what sets KV-cache size and
quantize/dequant throughput. A footnote marks the few types whose **nominal**
figure (older 1-byte-scale layout / data-bits-only) diverges from this exact
number; the table uses the exact number throughout.
### 6a. All KV-usable types, by bit density (interleaved)
| bpw | Type | Origin | KV-native | Notes |
|-----|------|--------|-----------|-------|
| 32.0 | f32 | mainline * | yes | full precision |
| 16.0 | f16 | mainline * | yes | default |
| 16.0 | bf16 | mainline * | yes | |
| 9.25 | q8_K | mainline * | weight | rare in KV; per-16-block sums; ik Q8_KV is the fast KV version |
| 8.13 | **q8_0** | mainline * | yes | |
| 8.06 | **q8_KV** | ik * | yes | the dedicated **fast KV cache** type (`-ctk q8_KV`); Q8_0-shaped, 1 shared scale |
| 6.63 | iq6_K | ik | weight→KV | IQK family |
| 6.56 | q6_K | mainline * | weight→KV | |
| 6.00 | **q5_1** | mainline * | yes | (nominal 5.06) |
| 5.50 | **q5_0** | mainline * | yes | (nominal 5.06) |
| 5.50 | q5_K | mainline * | weight→KV | |
| 5.50 | iq5_K | ik | weight→KV | IQK family |
| 4.50 | **q4_0** | mainline * | yes | (nominal 4.25) |
| 4.50 | **q4_1** | mainline * | yes | (nominal 4.25) |
| 4.50 | **iq4_nl** | mainline * | yes | (nominal 4.0) |
| 4.50 | iq4_K | ik | weight→KV | IQK family |
| 4.5 | **Turbo4_0** | ROCmFPX * | yes | TurboQuant; ~4.5 |
| 4.25 | iq4_ks | ik | weight→KV | IQK subsample |
| 4.25 | iq4_xs | mainline * | weight→KV | popular *weight* format, also usable in KV |
| 4.25 | mxfp4 | ik * | weight→KV | |
| 3.5 | **Turbo3_0** | ROCmFPX * | yes | TurboQuant; ~3.5 |
| 3.44 | iq3_K | ik | weight→KV | IQK family |
| 3.44 | iq3_s | mainline * | weight→KV | |
| 2.69 | iq2_kl | ik | weight→KV | IQK subsample |
| 2.38 | iq2_K | ik | weight→KV | IQK family |
| 2.19 | iq2_ks | ik | weight→KV | IQK subsample |
| 2.13 | iq2_kt | ik * | weight→KV | **Trellis** (lattice) |
| 1.75 | iq1_kt | ik * | weight→KV | **Trellis** (lattice) |
### 6b. Origin legend
- **Mainline KV-native** (`-ctk`/`-ctv` = exactly these 9, from `common/arg.cpp`
`kv_cache_types`): `f32, f16, bf16, q8_0, q4_0, q4_1, iq4_nl, q5_0, q5_1`. Marked
with `*` and `yes` in the KV-native column.
- **ROCmFPX KV-native**: `turbo3_0, turbo4_0` — TurboQuant's dedicated KV formats
(add a third `V` type for values only). Marked `*` here.
- **ik additions**: `q8_KV` (fast KV, dedicated), plus the weight-family quants
ik lets you reuse in `-ctk`/`-ctv` — the **IQK** family (`iq*_K`, plus the
`IKS`/`IKL` subsamples) and the **Trellis** lattice family (`iq*_KT`), and
`mxfp4`. ik's `-ctk` accepts a broader set than mainline's.
### 6c. Trellis, IQK, MXFP4 — where they sit
- **Trellis (`IQ*_KT`)** — ik's lattice-code quants, mirror the `IQ1..IQ4` bit
ladder: `iq1_kt` 1.75 → `iq2_kt` 2.13 → `iq3_kt` 3.13 → `iq4_kt` 4.00. Highest
quality per bit of the family; lowest-density entries in the whole table.
- **IQK (`IQ*_K`)** — ik's improved K-quants: `iq2_k` 2.38, `iq3_k` 3.44,
`iq4_k` 4.50, `iq5_k` 5.50, `iq6_k` 6.63, plus subsamples `iq2_kl` 2.69 /
`iq2_ks` 2.19 / `iq4_ks` 4.25. They sit alongside the mainline K-family
(iq2_k ≈ iq2_s, iq4_k ≈ q4_K) but with ik's row-interleave + fused GEMM.
- **MXFP4** (`mxfp4`, 4.25) — the mixed-precision FP4 cache quant; ik's entry.
### 6d. Hadamard is a transform, not a row
`--k-cache-hadamard` / `--v-cache-hadamard` (ik) is a **structured transform
applied on top of a base KV quant**, not its own bit-density row. It spreads
quantization error, improving accuracy for the underlying type; ik's guidance is
**best below Q6_0**. Row-interleaving (the `R4`/`R8` variants) is the same idea —
a packing transform on the K-family — and is likewise a modifier, not a quant.
### 6e. Server notes
- **Dankclaw (production, ROCmFP4 STRIX MTP):** KV stays on `turbo4_0` /
`turbo3_0` (TurboQuant) — the runtime's own formats. ik's IQK/Trellis path on
Strix is higher-risk (see §4).
- **Dankserver (3090 MoE):** `-ctk q8_KV` or `q4_K`/`q5_K` (mainline) with
FlashAttention + KV-quant; on ik, `iq4_k`/`iq4_kt`/`iq2_k` if a CUDA path is
confirmed for that type. Keep FlashAttention and the KV quant version in lockstep
— they are coupled (a quant change that drops FA off the path changes KV math).
## 5. Recommendations for our fleet
- **Dankclaw:** keep **charlie12345/ROCmFPX** (already production-tuned for