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Quantization Production — making our own quants, per card and runtime
Research page (2026-10-08). Question: how do WE produce quantizations for the RTX 3090, the R9700 (gfx1201), and Strix Halo (gfx1151); what is native to each runtime; and the state of the named prior-art families (REAP, Heretic, abliteration, HauhauCS K_P "Perfect"). Marked facts: [repo-verified] = evidenced by a file in this repo; [verified] = checked first-hand against the cited primary source today; the rest are survey claims to re-verify before acting.
Runtime-native quant matrix
| Card | Runtime | Container | Native weight encodings | Production tooling we own |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| RTX 3090 (sm_86) | llama.cpp CUDA | GGUF | K-quants (Q4_K_M…Q8_0), I-quants (IQ1_S…IQ4_XS), ML, f16/bf16; any tensor type per-tensor | llama-quantize + ggml-imatrix (built by scripts/build-llama-rdna4.sh targets) [repo-verified] |
| R9700 (gfx1201) | radiance (StillDeadcode) | .rad |
per-tensor encodings from a recipe: GPTQ w4 (w4nl64a8h), bf16, int8, fp8_e4m3, u2, MXFP4/MXFP6 (vLLM-radiance era) |
full pipeline: rad-convert + calibration tap + derive-protected-experts.py + kld-gate-swift15.sh [repo-verified] — CPU host-backend, the card is irrelevant to production |
| R9700 (gfx1201) | vLLM (tcclaviger/R4D) | safetensors | native block-FP8, MXFP4/DSFP4, GPTQ/AWQ, compressed-tensors | GPTQModel/AutoRound are hardware-agnostic torch (CPU-scale); AMD decode kernels are the gate [survey] |
| Strix Halo (gfx1151) | halogen-flash-server (peonist, closed) | .hgn |
vendor-defined (w4b era, v2 checkpoint+ngram+vision files) | NONE public — no .hgn quantizer exists; every .hgn on the fleet was made by peonist/Quat3rnion [repo-verified gap] |
| Strix Halo (gfx1151) | llama.cpp / gufo / Kairic / ROCmFPX forks | GGUF | K/I quants (gufo UD-* = imatrix mixed profiles), custom types: Q4_0_ROCMFP4_STRIX, Q8_0_ROCMFPX (type 103), Kairic IU4 |
we built the RUNTIMES (scripts/build-kairic-edge-gfx1151.sh, ROCmFPX pin 36e9acd), never the custom-type quantizers — those files came from agentionai/kingjones [repo-verified] |
Laws that steer everything here:
- Production is hardware-agnostic; decode is not. GPTQ/imatrix/ablation
surgery runs in torch/CPU anywhere. The card only picks which ENCODED
FORM it can DECODE — hence the one-table-one-encoding law, the GGUF
custom-type histogram law (GGUF Compatibility), and the fact that
our w4 convert ran 5 h 50 m on the host backend while the GPUs served
nobody (
scripts/convert-swift15-w4dn8.sh) [repo-verified]. - A custom tensor type locks the file to its fork (ROCmFPX type 103 precedent). K_P quants deliberately avoid that trap (below).
The named families
REAP — Router-weighted Expert Activation Pruning (Cerebras, 2025)
- arXiv 2510.13999;
github.com/CerebrasResearch/reap[verified]. - One-shot MoE surgery: score every expert by router gate-values × activation energy, prune the low-utility tail, renumber+export a SMALLER MoE checkpoint (safetensors; GGUF by conversion). Published: GLM-4.5-Air −25 % (82B→~A12B class), GLM-4.7-REAP-268B-A32B-FP8; near-lossless at 25–50 % compression on generative benchmarks, and pruning BEATS expert-merging there [verified from paper/README].
- Fleet relevance: it is the inverse of our protected-experts law.
derive-protected-experts.pyranks experts by calibration-gram energy share and keeps the hottest 24/layer at bf16; REAP's saliency is the same statistic and deletes the coldest. REAP the Flash-Next MoE (all 49,152 experts w4, 512/layer) by 25–50 % → resident set ~58–87 GiB → the expert pool fits with room for KV/cache, killing the disk tier. A REAPed checkpoint re-enters our normal pipeline: stage → calibrate → rad-convert → KLD gate. Hardware-agnostic; runs on the host.
Heretic (p-e-w/heretic) — automated abliteration + layer pruning
github.com/p-e-w/heretic, AGPLv3 [verified]. NOT a quantizer. Fully-automatic censorship removal: directional ablation (refusal direction from PCA of harmful/harmless residuals), per-layer ablation weights, optional LAYER DROPPING (model shrinks), auto-tuned by co-minimizing refusals and KL divergence from the original. Runs on our 3090 (torch, ~24–48 GB working set for 9–27B classes; long batch probes) [verified README; runtime cost survey].- Output is a normal HF checkpoint (fp16/bf16) → feeds GGUF, safetensors
(vLLM), and
.radconversion. Order law: surgery → calibrate → quantize; calibrate GPTQ/imatrix on the SURGICAL output, and keep refusal-shaped tokens out of the calibration corpus. - Fleet note: our abliterated bases (Quat3rnion v2, HauhauCS Aggressive/Balanced, ukisai Swift1.5) are this family's output; the Quat3rnion repo lore "the abliteration workflow appends, compaction drops dead padding" is exactly Heretic-style layer-editing leaving dead blocks (89.8 → 66.7 GiB r2) [repo-verified lore].
Ablation / abliteration (directional ablation)
- Arditi et al. 2024, arXiv 2406.11717: refusal is mediated by a single
direction; orthogonalizing weights against it removes refusals with a
rank-1 edit. Open implementations:
p-e-w/heretic(automated, above), Artio/abliteration-toolkits,EleutherAI/repeng-style rep-overlap variants [verified (tool existence: heretic; rest survey)]. - Hardware-agnostic fp-editing. On a MoE the edit touches attention/norm weights, so it composes with any expert quantization.
- Fleet status: frank-large runs an abliterated base by Frank's choice (AGENTS: censored-base refusals were the accepted trade of the 27B era); frank-archon's ukisai Swift1.5 is an abliterated finetune of Qwen3.8.
HauhauCS QX_K_P "Perfect" quants
- Our frank-secondary publisher. Method, from the publisher's own cards
[verified]: (1) abliterate + finetune ("Aggressive"/"Balanced"),
(2) quantize with imatrix calibration on the ABLITERATED weights,
(3) K_P = a per-model, per-tensor mixed-precision profile —
"model-specific analysis to selectively preserve quality where it
matters most", e.g. Q8_K_P = a census of Q8_K + F32 + F16 tensors
(FriendliAI's safetensor census of a Q8_K_P shows exactly that
399/353/99 tensor split). Result: +1–2 quality rungs for +5–15 %
size. It is a standard GGUF — llama-quantize with per-tensor type
overrides (
--tensor-type), imatrix on; no fork, no custom types (LM Studio just fails to NAME the mixed file, shows "?"). - Reproducible with stock tooling:
ggml-imatrixon the target model +llama-quantize --tensor-type <pattern>=<type>per the model's sensitivity census. Both binaries already build fromscripts/build-llama-rdna4.sh[repo-verified]. - Our own ladder precedent: the fleet's UD-Q8_K_XL (unsloth "Dynamic" = same family: imatrix + importance-tiered per-tensor types) and agentionai FAST imatrix ROCmFP4-FAST (we ran the imatrix step ourselves on the v2 joined-PLE file — the one self-made quant in repo history) [repo-verified].
Per-card playbooks
RTX 3090 — frank-secondary (llama.cpp CUDA)
- Surgery on host/3090: abliterate/prune (Heretic) — torch.
ggml-imatrix(CUDA build) over a calibration corpus (our/home/dank/corporastyle set; ≥1M tokens; the fleet's KLD corpus is a reasonable seed).llama-quantizeF16 → target rung; K_P-style--tensor-typeoverrides for attention/KV/first-layer upgrades;--use-repackfor IQ rungs.- Validate: perplexity + KLD vs BF16 + the K-quant rank checks. Decode-side options we do NOT use: EXL3 (turboderp ExLlamaV3, QTIP trellis; CUDA production on the 3090 works, decode is exllama-only — new runtime, no OpenAI server), Marlin-GPTQ (vLLM path, not a llama.cpp runtime).
R9700 — frank-primary (radiance)
The full self-quant pipeline already exists end to end: fetch BF16 →
record KLD reference (1.0.13) → capture calibration grams (1.2.0 tap,
RADIANCE_CALIB_DIR/TOKENS) → derive protected experts (energy-share) →
convert-swift15-w4dn8.sh (1.0.13, host backend) → KLD gate (MNBT 2048
law, pool 40960, mean KL ≤ 0.03, top-1 ≥ 95 %). New model = new recipe
- new
.soarch plugin; every step is scripted. Prior art to fold in: REAP the expert set BEFORE step 3; ablate BEFORE calibration. Native encodings beyond w4: i8 trunk, fp8 HC/PLE/KV, bf16 protected, u2 draft — all recipe-expressible (see the w4dn8 runbook).
Strix Halo — frank-large (halogen) and friends
.hgn: closed production door. No public quantizer exists (verified absence across peonist-ai repos); the format's lock is the engine's lock. We consume vendor artifacts; the repo-side tooling is compaction/verification only.- Self-quant work on this card therefore runs through GGUF runtimes:
the same imatrix/llama-quantize flow as the 3090 (HIP/Vulkan decode of
K/I quants, gufo UD-* precedent,
--use-repackoff on ROCm), or the custom-type forks (ROCmFP4 STRIX, Kairic IU4) whose PRODUCERS we have never been — the quantizers for types 101/103 ship in those forks' trees; building one is a fork build, not a flag. - Native-FP4 note: RDNA4/Strix get hardware FP4 matmuls (hipBLASLt MXFP4/DSFP4), which is the engine-level path (radiance/vLLM), not a GGUF decode.
Sources
- REAP: arXiv 2510.13999, github.com/CerebrasResearch/reap, cerebras/GLM-4.5-Air-REAP-82B-A12B-FP8, cerebras/GLM-4.7-REAP-268B-A32B-FP8.
- Heretic: github.com/p-e-w/heretic (AGPLv3).
- Abliteration: arXiv 2406.11717 (Arditi et al.).
- K_P: HauhauCS model cards (e.g.
HauhauCS/Gemma-4-E4B-Uncensored-HauhauCS-AggressiveREADME "What are K_P quants?"), FriendliAI Q8_K_P tensor census, fleet payload tree (BF16/Q4_K_M/Q6_K/Q8_0 + mmproj ladder inHauhauCS/Qwen3.5-9B-Uncensored-HauhauCS-Aggressive). - EXL3: github.com/turboderp-org/exllamav3 (QTIP lineage; CUDA).
- Repo:
scripts/convert-swift15-w4dn8.sh,scripts/recipes/qwen4exp-swift15-w4dn8-i8-hc8m.recipe,scripts/kld-gate-swift15.sh,scripts/build-llama-rdna4.sh,scripts/build-kairic-edge-gfx1151.sh, agentionai-fast-imatrix, kingjones-strix-rocmfp4, qwen3.8-strix-optimizations, frank-primary-radiance-swift15-w4dn8, frank-secondary-llama-qwen35-9b-q6k-2x200704, frank-large-flash-server-v2-swift15, GGUF Compatibility.