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@@ -168,11 +168,46 @@ Not advisable.
 | **Affinity** | yes, built here | **V4-Flash only** — "the geometry is compiled in; there is no architecture abstraction" | 110 tok/s for 284B. Best engine for this box by an order of magnitude, wrong model |
 | **tcclaviger vLLM fork** | **yes — proven 2026-09-29** | qwen4exp measured 37.4-40.6 tok/s decode (see [[dankserver-qwen38-fp8-expert-offload-tuning]]); **`glm5next` registered** (`Glm5NextForCausalLM`/`MTP`, backend-split `amd/`/`common/`/`nvidia/`, `sparse_indexer.py` for DSA); r4d.so has **native mxfp4 + dsfp4 MoE entries** (`has_dsfp4() == True`); W4A16 MoE class (`R4dW4a16MoEExperts`) wired into the same tiered offload; TunableOp silently skipped under offload (needs `CLAV_TUNABLEOP_WITH_OFFLOAD=1`, and then corrupts numerics — do not use) | the ad hoc qwen-fp8 container's runtime; **the old "MXFP4 = emulation/missing kernels" verdict predates this fork and is dead** — the GLM-5.3-Flash gate is now the payload format + a boot probe, not kernels |
 | **Lucebox** | yes, image on host | Qwen 3.8, DS4; **V4.1 on the unmerged `feat/ds41-engine` branch** | The only V4.1 path. **Refuses layer split and layer-major prefill for V4.1** |
-| **radiance-vLLM** (drwolfen) | yes — the active frank-primary | welded to `qwen4_exp`; PLE / QSA / packed-HC live inside that model class | 12–20 person-days per architecture |
+| **radiance-vLLM** (drwolfen) | yes — served frank-primary 2026-09-27 → 09-30 | welded to `qwen4_exp`; PLE / QSA / packed-HC live inside that model class | 12–20 person-days per architecture |
 | **FreeToken-ROCm** | partial | block-FP8 safetensors only (modelopt); known `CpuMoeExecutor` issue under ROCm | cannot load a GGUF |
 | **llama.cpp** | yes | GLM-5.3 confirmed by a community R9700 guide; DS-V4.1 CED unverified | no expert LRU; **8 CPU cores** make CPU expert placement the wrong trade |
 | **TokenSpeed** | claimed | GLM-5.x incl. a 5.3-Flash recipe | NVIDIA-first, unverified on gfx1201 |
 | **KTransformers** | no | GLM-5.3 tutorial exists | built for Intel AMX + NVIDIA |
+| **radiance** (StillDeadcode — the standalone C++/HIP engine, NOT the vLLM fork of the same name) | image `stilldeadcode/radiance` prebuilt for gfx1201 | qwen35 dense/MoE at fp8, qwen4exp quantised-at-convert, llama-shaped | see the probe below: our FP8 payload is REFUSED; tiers, MTP and vision native |
+
+### radiance (standalone) — 2026-10-05 probe
+
+`codeberg.org/StillDeadcode/radiance` — Deadcode's from-scratch engine
+(v1.0.13): same author as the `vllm-radiance` fork we ran in September
+([[frank-medium-radiance-mxfp4]]), an unrelated codebase — C++/HIP, no
+Python, kernels/architectures/quantisers as `.so` plugins, flags written
+for two 32 GB R9700s, native Qwen3.8-Flash-Next with `--placement
+expert_tiered`, MTP and vision.
+
+Probe with the DEPLOYED payload (`rad-convert --plan-only`, which stops
+at declare — no GPU touched, no bytes written):
+
+```
+E no architecture plugin claims 'qwen4exp' at quantisation 'fp8'.
+  'qwen4exp' is served at: (unquantised).
+```
+
+So the 173 G orcarouter FP8 file cannot enter this engine at all: the
+qwen4exp plugin takes bf16/f16/f32/GGUF in and every quantisation happens
+at `rad-convert` time by recipe. Not a lock-in to their published quant —
+recipes are per-weight-class rules (`rtn`/`gptq`/`awq`/`autoround`/
+`paroquant`/`ggml`, grids from fp8 128×128 to i4/w4nl/w5nl codebooks,
+custom `--quant` rules go ahead of the file's), and libr4d lists routed
+experts-as-fp8 among the encodings it reads — so today's quantization is
+reproducible **from a bf16 source**, not from our file. Uncensored-family
+bf16 source candidates: `windowsxp811203/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Abliterated-GGUF`
+(ships the bf16 GGUF) and `mradermacher/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-Uncensored-GGUF`
+(i1 quants only). 622 G free fits source + container. A trial is:
+download → `rad-convert` (CPU-side) → stop+mask frank-primary window to
+serve. Caveats on record: `--tp-wire wht6` is a lossy int8 all-reduce
+wire; the recurrent GDN state is f32 by default (144 MiB/sequence) with
+an opt-in f16 that changes generated text; every pool is budgeted
+explicitly — no profiling pass, no utilisation fraction.
 
 The two-R9700 three-owner split (primary + secondary + stream) is **not
 available on this host**: the retired quadlet recorded that