docs(vault): answer "what are we doing wrong" on decode-vs-prefill
frank-archon Laws: add the measured interference census (decode-only step 15.5 ms vs 166 ms chunk steps; 4.7% of steps hold 34% of step time; median decode 166 -> 13 t/s above 5k prefill tok/s, per-stream 6.7 t/s = one token per shared step; TTFT p90 2.4 -> 18.0 s for arriving requests), the lag test that kills the residency theory, the busy_cap arithmetic, and the correction that --prefill-interleave is the decoder dial and auto is not. Facts that change how an operator reads this box: /diagnostics exists and reports link-below-max at 100% busy; latency metrics live under vllm:, cadence under radiance:; preemption is vllm:num_preemptions_total (264 this boot, all bursts) while the radiance gauge is instant depth; both root ports are x8 Gen5 max by board (31.5 GB/s ceiling, not 64); DDR is back at 4800 MT/s while the 4600 corruption fix is recorded -- verify before blaming garbage tokens. §9 (LLM Performance Diagnosis): method corrected to the phase-ratio counters, dead 1.0.13 numbers destroyed, four PromQL traps added (metric prefix, 1 s EMA gauges vs 15 s scrape, counter resets across builds, 2-minute mean diluting the chunk), instruments that cannot be reached from Prometheus, and the knob list priced from the pinned 1.8.1 source instead of the stale guide.
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@@ -239,45 +239,90 @@ prefill is over. `preemptions` separates the third shape: a preempted-and-recomp
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sequence stops producing entirely and then re-prefills from token 0, which is a
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stall, not sludge.
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Knobs, in the order worth trying them (radiance GUIDE §4.5):
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**Split the step ledger before choosing a knob.** Three counters decide which mechanism you are
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looking at, and none is a rate: `engine_step_seconds_decode_total / engine_steps_decode_total` is
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the mean **decode-only** step, and `(step_seconds_total − step_seconds_decode_total) /
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(steps_total − steps_decode_total)` is the mean **chunk step** (a chunk alone, or a chunk with
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decode rows beside it). On frank-archon's live 1.8.1 shape that pair is **15.5 ms against 166 ms**,
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with 4.7 % of the steps holding 34 % of the step time. Decode-only steps themselves move only
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14.1 → 16.4 ms between a prefill-free minute and a heavy one, and the lagged buckets stay flat: so
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a decode-rate collapse on that box is **step time sharing**, and the eviction/residency story is
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worth ~10 % of one step — not a lever.
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- `--prefill-interleave N` — after a chunk step taken beside decoders, the next N
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steps carry decode rows only and admit nothing. Decoders keep their cadence; the
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prompt pays that in TTFT. Counts as `engine_steps_held_total`.
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- `--busy-prefill-chunk MODE` — the chunk's share of a step that has other work:
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`auto` (default) reserves a row plus the draft window per decode row behind it and
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an eighth of the budget per waiting prefill/request, `off` lets the chunk take the
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whole step (admission never runs while it does), `N` pins the share. Never under
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the prefill stager's smallest pass — the startup line names it, and below it every
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routed layer reads its pooled experts synchronously, which costs the prefill far
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more than sharing saves. Counts as `engine_prefill_chunks_capped_total`.
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- `--max-num-batched-tokens` — the blunt rung, and the only one older pins have. The vendor's own
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curve prices **halving the shared chunk at roughly a fifth of prefill throughput** (a 48-layer MoE
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at 200k on two cards — knob pricing, not this endpoint's number, so treat it as the order of
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magnitude a chunk decision costs). Raising it past the checkpoint interval buys nothing and loses
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expert residency to the arena.
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- `--prefill-span N` — the inverse trade: a *lone* prefill carries N intervals a step while every
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shared step is planned at a smaller shared budget, which on an expert-tiered box lends that arena
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back to the expert slab. The vendor's own measurement says the win is **long-prompt-only**: nothing
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at short prompts, a large TTFT gain at the far end of the window.
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**Four traps in the PromQL above.** Learn them before trusting a bucket:
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- **Latency is `vllm:`, cadence is `radiance:`.** The TTFT / inter-token / per-output-token / e2e
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histograms and the running/waiting gauges exist only under the vLLM compatibility prefix; preemption
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is `vllm:num_preemptions_total` (the counter) while `radiance:num_requests_preempted` is the
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*instant* depth. A `radiance:`-only query finds no latency and no preemption, and reads as "the
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endpoint never stalls anyone".
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- **The tps gauges are 1 s decayed windows, batch-pooled.** Per-stream rate is
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`decode_tokens_per_second / vllm:num_requests_running`. With a 15 s scrape, a 120 s step samples one
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scrape in eight — use step ≤ 30 s for a bucket table.
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- **Every counter resets at a restart and the metric set changes with the build.** Prove the window is
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one shape (`up`, or the first sample of a counter that only the current build exports) before
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ranking buckets; frank-archon's 48 h window straddled two containers, and one bucket's "collapse"
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turned out to belong entirely to the older one.
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- **A 2-minute mean step time dilutes the chunk.** The sharp variable is the phase ratio in the query
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above, never `step_seconds/steps` — 4.7 % of steps cannot move a mean that is 95 % decode.
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Two traps. **The arena/slab coupling makes a shared step doubly expensive on an
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expert-tiered shape**: the full-plan arena takes VRAM the resident expert slab would have had, so the
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decode rows inside that step also read experts over the link — a smaller shared budget helps twice.
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And **re-check
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`prefix_hit_rate` / `prefix_evictions` after any chunk change**: the arena and the KV
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pool are the same memory, and the failure looks like turn two taking as long as turn
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one.
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Three instruments the PromQL above cannot reach:
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Availability is a version question, not a config question: `--busy-prefill-chunk` and
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`--prefill-interleave` are absent from older pins — prove it on the running container
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(`podman exec <c> <binary> --help | grep -iE "prefill|chunk"`), never from the vendored
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tree, and check the source clone's depth before dating a flag from `git log -S`
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(a `--depth 1` clone reports its own tip for every search).
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- **The engine's own step-detail histograms (`prefill_steps_duration`, `prefill_step_tokens`,
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`token_queue_wait`) are exported but reach no target**, and the arena / expert slab / heat engine /
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prefill stager have **no metric at all**. Per-request forensics mean `curl localhost:7770/stats` on
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the endpoint's own host — same phase counters plus `preemptions` (the count), the chunk geometry,
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and the expert/link byte totals. `/diagnostics` answers "is the *box* the limit" in one call:
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configuration drift, the VRAM split, each card's link chain and clocks, findings with fixes.
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- **`prefix_hit_cut_tokens_total` measures prefill load you created for yourself.** On a hybrid
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(linear + paged) model a prefix hit reuses only as far as the last **linear-state** checkpoint, so
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cached tokens are replayed as prefill and stall decoders for it; frank-archon ran 38 % of all its
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prefill tokens that way, every `prefix_hit_cuts_total` labelled `reason="no_snapshot"`. A high
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prefill rate is not always a client that sends new tokens.
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- **Bucket the arriving request too** — `histogram_quantile` over
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`vllm:time_to_first_token_seconds_bucket` by the same prefill series. The decode gauge only sees
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sequences that are already running; the one waiting for its first token pays the same steps and
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shows in no decode number.
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Run on: [[frank-archon]] — the census was taken on its 3-slot radiance 1.0.13 era (budget 2048 =
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interval 2048); the live 1.8.1 shape carries the two chunk knobs. The measured census and the verdict
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for this fleet's shape are that page's.
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Knobs, in the order worth trying them (radiance GUIDE §4.5; the pinned source is the referee):
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- `--prefill-interleave N` — after a chunk step taken beside decoders, the next N steps carry decode
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rows only and admit nothing. **The knob that acts on the measured mechanism.** Decoders keep their
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cadence; the prefilling prompt pays in TTFT and an arriving request waits out the held steps.
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Counts as `engine_steps_held_total` — if that counter is zero, nothing is protecting anyone.
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- `--busy-prefill-chunk N` — pins a shared chunk's share of the step. **`auto` is a prefill-speed
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setting, not decoder protection:** it reserves `1 + spec` rows per decoding sequence plus an eighth
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of the budget per *waiting* request or prefill, and the source refuses to halve for "decode rows
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alone", so a shape can run `auto` and still lose every chunk step. Prove engagement from
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`engine_prefill_chunks_capped_total` against the chunk-step count. The floor is the prefill
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stager's smallest pass — the largest arena level that lends, plus one, named on the startup line
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`prefill staging: … a step of more than N tokens copies the pooled experts of …` — and under it
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every routed layer reads its pooled experts synchronously: the vendor prices the whole job (four
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decoders plus a long prompt) at **29.5 s with a 2048 chunk and 31.9 s at 512**, so shrinking the
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chunk blindly buys latency in both directions.
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- `--prefill-span N` — needs `--max-num-batched-tokens` of N intervals. A *lone* prefill then
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carries N intervals a step (on an expert-tiered box only from 8 intervals, where the vendor's own
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measurement says a span starts to win), while **every other step is planned at the shared
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budget** — a lending arena level that also keeps the stager's ring, the one combination the chunk
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knob cannot express. Priced by the vendor at 320 MiB a card of expert residency, ~3 % off the KV
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pool, and TTFT-neutral on one of his two 2×R9700 boxes: measure your own prompt lengths first.
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- `--max-num-batched-tokens` alone — the blunt rung, and the only one older pins have. It raises the
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arena the expert slab loses, and on this payload its resonance is violent (MNBT 2560 collapses
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decode — [[frank-archon]]).
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Two traps. **The arena/slab coupling makes a shared step expensive twice:** the full-plan arena is
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reclaimed from the expert slab *synchronously before the step*, and the loan regrows only after a
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quiet interval, so every step of a prefill run — the decode-only ones included — runs on the smaller
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slab. And **re-check `prefix_hit_rate` / `prefix_evictions` after any chunk or span change**: the
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arena, the staging ring and the KV pool are the same memory, and the failure looks like turn two
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taking exactly as long as turn one.
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Availability is a version question, not a config question: `--busy-prefill-chunk`,
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`--prefill-interleave` and `--prefill-span` are absent from older pins — prove it on the running
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container (`podman exec <c> <binary> --help | grep -iE "prefill|chunk"`) or from `/diagnostics`'s
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`configuration` block, never from a vendored tree, and check a source clone's depth before dating a
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flag from `git log -S` (a `--depth 1` clone reports its own tip for every search).
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Run on: [[frank-archon]] — owner of the live census, the measured step pair, and the arms.
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## Related
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@@ -96,7 +96,7 @@ on stop. Boot budget 1800 s (the publisher's compose allows a 15-minute `start_p
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| Spec / batch | `SPEC_TOKENS=2` — MTP depth 2, the `.rad` carries the model's own `mtp.*` head (`mtp.fc_hidden`/`fc_embedding`/`draft_head`); `MAX_BATCHED_TOKENS=2048` (MNBT — 2560 collapses decode, Laws) |
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| Prefix cache | `PREFIX_CACHE_MIB=8192`, pinned **host tier only** — the 64 GiB disk tier is gone, so an evicted prefix is re-prefilled; `STATE_DIR=/home/dank/radiance-state` now exists only to hold the rad-tune cache |
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| Template | `TEMPLATE=scripts/qwen38-froggeric-v22.5.jinja` (28,234 B) via `--override-chat-template` — froggeric's fixed Qwen3.8 template (the repo root's `chat_template.jinja`, vendored); the checkpoint's own template is baked into the `.rad` by rad-convert and this overrides it, and radiance derives the reasoning and tool-call reply format from it |
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| Step sharing | `BUSY_PREFILL_CHUNK=auto` (a shared chunk reserves a row plus the draft window per waiting decoder) · `PREFILL_INTERLEAVE=0` — held at zero until the decode-vs-prefill buckets ask for it |
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| Step sharing | `BUSY_PREFILL_CHUNK=auto` — prefill-speed first: it reserves 3 tokens per waiting decoder and ⅛ of the budget per waiting request, and does **not** shrink the chunk for decoders alone · `PREFILL_INTERLEAVE=0` — the decoder dial, held at zero until the §9 buckets ask for it |
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| TTM gate | `TTM_MIN_MIB=150000`, `TTM_TARGET_MIB=204800` |
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| Boot | `RAD_MIN_MIB=110000` deployer floor; the listener binds only after the full load (health ~100 s, budget 1800 s) |
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@@ -280,30 +280,83 @@ vllm-radiance era (this table opens on 09-26; the era page claims 10-10).
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- **MNBT 2048.** 2560 collapses decode to 2.6-7.7 t/s (MTP resonance); the w4 file tier streams
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in place only at MNBT ≤ 2048 and the activation arena scales with the chunk (32768 → 33.3
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GiB, refused).
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- **Decode pays for the chunk it shares a step with.** Census of the live engine taken at the
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3-slot shape on 1.0.13 (`/stats` + `/metrics`, cumulative over the 2026-10-15 boot):
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1,435,585 decode-only steps at **18.7 ms** each against 127,991 prefill+mixed steps
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at **317 ms** — 60 % of engine wall-clock spent inside 8 % of the steps, because the
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chunk is `min(remaining, checkpoint interval 2048, MNBT 2048)` = 2048 rows and every
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decode row in that step waits the whole chunk. Day of Prometheus (120 s step, 721
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samples): `decode_tokens_per_second` median **13.3 t/s** in the 56 % of samples where
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`prefill_tokens_per_second` ≥ 1000, against 106-240 t/s in the light-prefill buckets;
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bucketed by mean step time it is 128.7 t/s at 0.02-0.05 s steps and 12.0 t/s at
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0.15-0.4 s. The stall is **during**, not after — decode in windows 2-14 min after a
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busy-prefill window sits at the idle baseline (58-64 vs 77-85 t/s, the residual
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confounded by co-scheduling), so no lingering expert-residency penalty at 2-minute
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resolution, and `preemptions: 0` rules out preempt-and-re-prefill. Method:
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[[LLM Performance Diagnosis]] §9. The law is shape-independent; the fix lives at 1.8.1 (next law),
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and nobody has re-run the census since the migration — so the fix is ordered, **not verified**.
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- **The knobs for it arrived with 1.8.1, and only one of them is on.** `--busy-prefill-chunk` caps the
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shared chunk so a step with waiting decoders takes a smaller piece (live: `auto`, the engine picks;
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the explicit value is 512), and `--prefill-interleave N` inserts N decode-only steps after a chunk
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step taken beside decoders. `interleave` is deliberately **0** — the env comment holds it there until
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the decode-vs-prefill buckets ask for it, and those buckets have not been read since the migration.
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The vendor prices a 1024 chunk at about a fifth off prefill throughput to halve the stall; that is a
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knob for choosing tomorrow's chunk, not a measurement of this shape. MNBT remains an arm and not an
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edit: 2560 collapses decode through MTP resonance. Any chunk change re-scores draft acceptance before
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it is trusted.
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- **Decode pays for the chunk it shares a step with, and `--busy-prefill-chunk auto` does not
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protect it.** Re-measured on the live 1.8.1 shape (34.8 h boot, Prometheus at 60 s,
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`engine_step_seconds{,_decode}_total` / `engine_steps{,_decode,_mixed,_prefill}_total` /
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`prefill_tokens_total`): decode-only steps run at **15.5 ms**, chunk steps (a chunk alone, or a
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chunk with decode rows beside it) at **166 ms** — 4.7 % of the steps hold **34 % of the engine's
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step time**, so a session decoding while another prompts advances one token per 166 ms. Bucket the
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harness's `radiance:decode_tokens_per_second` by `radiance:prefill_tokens_per_second` (15 s
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scrapes; per-stream rate = the gauge ÷ `vllm:num_requests_running`): median **166 t/s** under light
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prefill, 81 t/s at 1-5k, **13 t/s above 5k** — a **12.7×** collapse, and at 13 t/s with two
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sessions running each stream sits at 6.7 t/s = 149 ms a token, one token per shared step. Nothing
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else moves: decode-*only* steps stay 14-18 ms in every bucket (14.1 ms in a prefill-free minute,
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17.9 ms in the deep one) and the relationship is lag-0 only (r = −0.74 at lag 0, |r| ≤ 0.19 from
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30 s on, decode back at baseline by 5 min) — residency is not the mechanism either. The second
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victim is the **arriving** request: through a high-prefill window TTFT p90 goes 2.4 → **18.0 s**
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and 15.5 % of requests wait over 10 s for their first token, with `http_queue_depth` at 2-3, while
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median TTFT (~1.9 s) and per-token latency barely move. Preemption is real but burst-shaped: 264
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`vllm:num_preemptions_total` in the boot, 108 of them inside 105 s of a 6.5k-tok/s prefill. The
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chunk is `min(remaining, checkpoint interval, MNBT, busy_cap)`; the first three read 2048 here,
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and `busy_cap` is the fourth law.
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- **`auto` is a prefill-speed dial, not a decoder-protection dial.** `Scheduler::busy_cap` reserves
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`1 + spec` rows per decoding sequence behind the chunk (3 tokens at MTP 2) plus one eighth of the
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budget per *waiting request or waiting prefill*, and the code refuses to do more for decoders:
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"not for decode rows alone: their reserve is a few tokens, so the chunk ends a quantum short and
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the next step finishes the interval… Halving would hold a long prompt to half-interval chunks while
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anything decodes behind it, which costs more" (`core/sched/scheduler.cpp:874-878`, 1.8.1). Live
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proof: `prefill_chunks_capped` 5,018 against 62,386 chunk steps — 8 %, and those are the minutes
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with a waiter, not the minutes with a decoder. An explicit `N` is the only value that applies
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"whenever the chunk shares the step".
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- **At MNBT 2048 no chunk value keeps both the arena loan and the staged copies.** The arena is a
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ladder of levels (256 and 1024 rows here) and a step's rows are its **whole** token count —
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`max(n_tok, n_seq × (1 + spec))`, `core/engine.cpp:1142` — so a 1024-token chunk with two decode
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rows is a 1030-row step: it falls back to the full plan, which "lends nothing", and it arms the
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prefill stager. The stager's floor is the largest lending level plus one, 1025 rows here — named on
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the boot line `prefill staging: … a step of more than 1024 tokens copies the pooled experts of 48
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routed layers onto the card up to 3 layers ahead` — and below it "every routed layer reads its
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pooled experts synchronously and the prefill slows far more than sharing saves" (GUIDE §4.5). The
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vendor's own number for naive shrinking, on this architecture: four decoders with a long prompt
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beside them finished in **29.5 s at a 2048 chunk and 31.9 s at 512**.
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- **A big step takes the arena from the expert slab and keeps it for the whole prefill.** The arena
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lends 987.77 MiB (steps ≤ 256 rows) or 670.26 MiB (≤ 1024) to the slab; a full-plan step reclaims
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it **synchronously before the step** — units revert to their host copies (an address change, not a
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copy) and both read streams drain — and `arena_tick` regrows the loan only **2 s after the last big
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step** (`core/engine.cpp:1129-1202`), so every step of the prefill run, decode-only included, runs
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with a slab ~780 expert units smaller over a link also carrying the staged copies. `/diagnostics`
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says the binding constraint in one line: "a prefill step streams every routed layer's pooled
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experts onto the card, so its speed is bounded by the link; decode reads the ones it routes to".
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Measured size of the whole effect: the ~10 % above. Real, small, not worth chasing.
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- **`--prefill-interleave` is the dial that buys decode its cadence; it is off (`steps_held` 0).**
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N decode-only steps follow any chunk step taken beside decoders; held steps admit nothing, so it
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costs the prefilling prompt its TTFT and an arriving request its first step. Rate arithmetic at the
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two measured step times and 0.657 acceptance (≈2.3 tokens a step): N=0 → ~14 t/s, N=2 → ~33,
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N=4 → ~48, N=8 → ~69, with the prefill slowed by (166 + 15.5N)/166. **Arithmetic, not
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measurement** — the arm is chosen by the §9 bucket pair plus `steps_held`, and `auto` is not a
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substitute for it.
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- **`--prefill-span` is the shape that keeps the loan, and it is priced.** It needs MNBT = N
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intervals, so `--prefill-span 2 --max-num-batched-tokens 4096`: a *lone* prefill carries 2
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intervals a step (and on an expert-tiered box only from 8 intervals / 16k tokens, where the span
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starts to win), while **every other step is planned at the shared budget of 2048** — which is a
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lending level *and* keeps the stager's ring, the one combination `--busy-prefill-chunk` cannot
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express. Costs per GUIDE §4.5: 320 MiB a card of expert residency, ~3 % off the KV pool (§4.3's
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cliff is sharp), a decode step uploads twice the per-step arrays at 4096, and checkpoints inside a
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span are not written, so a partially-shared prompt resumes one interval earlier. On the vendor's
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second box (2×R9700, w4nl64, TP2) it was TTFT-neutral — 2.61 vs 2.56 s at 18k, 10.72 vs 10.55 at
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75k — hence their own rule: measure your own prompts at two ranks before turning it on. MNBT 4096
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does not boot at 3 slots; this shape is 2.
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- **Most of this endpoint's prefill work is replay of tokens the prefix cache already had.** Over
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the same window `prefill_tokens_total` 65.2 M against `prefix_hit_cut_tokens_total` 24.9 M = **38 %
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replayed**, and it is not an eviction: a hit on a hybrid model reuses only as far as the last
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**linear-state** checkpoint (`reuse = min(h.n_attn_tokens, h.n_linear_tokens)`,
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`core/sched/scheduler.cpp:953-978`), and the default `checkpoint policy geometric-backoff, base
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2048` thins the snapshots deep in a prompt, so a hit at 150k can resume at 128k. The cause object
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agrees — every `prefix_hit_cuts_total` carries `reason="no_snapshot"` (`windowed_group` and
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`adopt_failed` are dead) — but the event count is small and the tokens are the cost, so read
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`hit_cut_tokens`. An arm, not an edit:
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`--checkpoint-policy floor` (or a shorter `--checkpoint-interval`) buys the replay back with
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pinned-RAM checkpoint slots, and those slots come out of the same pinned host memory the expert
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pool claims — a resolver fight, and `prefix_hit_cut_tokens_total` is the meter.
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- **Slots cost KV, rows, and window — never speed.** `--max-num-seqs` carries no radiance constraint: it
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adds ≈110 MiB of recurrent state per slot (the live `kv_full_backing` arithmetic prices them exactly),
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declares the fused TP all-reduce over `seqs × (1 + spec)` rows, and `wht6` is bit-exact up to 25 rows
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@@ -396,12 +449,35 @@ vllm-radiance era (this table opens on 09-26; the era page claims 10-10).
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4600 MT/s ended it, with zero `gdn_hip` faults either side; the prefix-caching / GDN re-seed
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theory was confounded on both arms. Consumer non-ECC raises no MCE for a silent flip and a
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60 s / 8 GiB pattern check covers 0.5 % of 246 GiB — silent RAM corruption outranks every
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software theory.
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software theory. **That mitigation is a BIOS setting and it is not in effect now:** `sudo
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dmidecode -t memory | grep -i configured` answers 4800 MT/s on 2026-10-20, and the only event
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between the fix and today is the 2026-10-12 power failure that also reset TTM. Check the speed
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before crediting any software revert with a fix — and before believing a clean run of the arm
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you just tested, because the confounder is still in the slot.
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- **TP=2 here** is legal since the 2026-09-20 ProArt B850 swap (x8/x8 on CPU root ports,
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`Routing+`/`ReqEn+` end to end) only because radiance's wire is `libr4d`'s own one-shot
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all-reduce; RCCL needs atomics on the whole chain and fails `hipErrorIllegalState` without
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them (). `wht6` buys +5.6-6.3 % prefill for ~1.3 % of 8-stream
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decode, `exact` is the bit-exact alternative.
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- **The link is already at the board's ceiling — do not chase the `link-below-max` warning.**
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Both root ports (`00:01.1`, `00:01.3`) are **x8 max** at 32 GT/s, so PCIe 5.0 x8 ≈ 31.5 GB/s is
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the whole budget per card and the cards' own `pcie_dpm` tables expose only x8 states.
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`/diagnostics` still warns that the on-card switch hop (`01:00.0`, `05:00.0`) runs "x8 of its
|
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x16 while the card is 100 % busy" and suggests a reboot or a reseat — pointless when the host
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side of the chain is x8 max, which the same endpoint reports two findings later as
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`link-capped`. The width that matters is the minimum of the chain, and it is x8 either way, so
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the only lever on a link-bound prefill is **less traffic over the link** (more expert
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residency, fewer pooled experts), never a wider link. P2P resolves **on** (`auto` asks the
|
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driver, the two cards reach each other's memory), so the collectives do not hairpin through host
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RAM, and the engine's copies ride one DMA queue that "give[s] way to the collectives" — the
|
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all-reduce wins the link, the staged experts wait.
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- **Eight cores is the whole host, media stack included.** Dankserver is a Ryzen 7 7700X (8
|
||||
cores / 8 threads, one NUMA node, `nodes: -1` for both cards) running Jellyfin, Plex, Calibre
|
||||
and RomM beside the engine, and `--http-threads` defaults to one thread per core. Measured
|
||||
during a heavy prefill: load average ≈ 1.0, `jellyfin` 11 % CPU, `radiance` 7 % — **CPU
|
||||
contention is not the current decode culprit**, so do not spend an experiment window on it;
|
||||
re-read `uptime` and `ps -eo pcpu,comm --sort=-pcpu | head` first if a future collapse looks
|
||||
different from the step-sharing one.
|
||||
- `--prefix-cache-dir` creation is **not recursive** — the serve script `mkdir -p`s the path or
|
||||
the disk tier silently never opens. The tier does survive a payload swap when arch and
|
||||
tokenizer match (it recovered 900,176 blocks on the 2026-10-15 swap; `cache_n` proves a hit).
|
||||
@@ -445,11 +521,19 @@ vllm-radiance era (this table opens on 09-26; the era page claims 10-10).
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## Contract (the wire)
|
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|
||||
- **Live surface:** `/health` (== `/ping`), `/v1/models`, `/v1/chat/completions`
|
||||
`/v1/completions`, `/metrics`, `/stats`, `/sessions`, `/dashboard`. `/health` answers 200
|
||||
JSON (model id, `in_flight`, `queue_depth`) while serving and **503 only while stopping**
|
||||
(`core/server/admin.cpp:385`), and the listener binds *after* the full load (`main.cpp`:
|
||||
`engine.start()` then `engine.serve()`) — during the load the port refuses connections, so a
|
||||
bare `curl -fsS …/health` gate is honest and needs no body grep.
|
||||
`/v1/completions`, `/metrics`, `/stats`, `/sessions`, `/dashboard`, **`/diagnostics`**. `/health`
|
||||
answers 200 JSON (model id, `in_flight`, `queue_depth`) while serving and **503 only while
|
||||
stopping** (`core/server/admin.cpp:385`), and the listener binds *after* the full load
|
||||
(`main.cpp`: `engine.start()` then `engine.serve()`) — during the load the port refuses
|
||||
connections, so a bare `curl -fsS …/health` gate is honest and needs no body grep.
|
||||
- **`/diagnostics` is the instrument for "is the box, not the config, the limit"** — one call
|
||||
returns `configuration` (every flag, so drift from the env file is checkable without the host),
|
||||
`environment`, `derived` (the VRAM split as the ledger prints it), `hardware` (host, per-card
|
||||
`link_chain` + `pcie_dpm` + clocks + power cap + DMA engine choice + P2P answer) and `findings`
|
||||
(level / what / why / fix). On this box it reports `experts-from-host` (5.99 GiB a rank crosses
|
||||
PCIe when used), `link-capped` (root ports are x8 max — the board), `swap-in-use`,
|
||||
`tp-wire-lossy`, and **`link-below-max` as a `warn` at 100 % card busy on both cards** — which is
|
||||
structural on this board; see the x8-ceiling law under *This host, and the deploy path*.
|
||||
- **Served id.** `FRANK_ARCHON_SERVED_NAME=frank-archon` (the wire rename of 2026-10-09 moved
|
||||
only the alias; container, unit, scripts and env keep the service name). The env's contract
|
||||
line is that **radiance validates the requested model name, so every client — harness, bench
|
||||
@@ -476,12 +560,28 @@ vllm-radiance era (this table opens on 09-26; the era page claims 10-10).
|
||||
and 16,384 patches per pass. Probe with a ≥ 256 px solid-colour PNG and a ≥ 256 token budget
|
||||
— at 64 tokens you get empty `content` and the colour only inside `reasoning_content`.
|
||||
- **Capacity behaviour:** a prompt over `--max-model-len` is refused, never truncated; a request
|
||||
longer than the KV pool's token count is accepted then refused as too large to fit; under the
|
||||
3-slot contract a **fourth** full-height conversation is refused, not paged or squeezed.
|
||||
longer than the KV pool's token count is accepted then refused as too large to fit; a request
|
||||
beyond `--max-num-seqs` is held by the HTTP port (`queue_cap`, default 8 × slots = 16 here) and
|
||||
answered 503 only past that, never paged or squeezed. Because the cache funds **1.8** full-height
|
||||
sessions, admitting a second near-full-height conversation can **preempt a running sequence from
|
||||
the back** to free its blocks (`core/sched/scheduler.cpp:1291-1322`); the victim is recomputed, so
|
||||
its session halts and then re-prefills. Meter: `vllm:num_preemptions_total` (264 in the current
|
||||
boot, all in prefill-coincident bursts — 108 inside 105 s); `/stats preemptions` is the cumulative
|
||||
count and `radiance:num_requests_preempted` only the instant depth.
|
||||
- **Observability:** `/metrics` carries vLLM-compatible names plus `radiance:*`, scraped by the
|
||||
Dankclaw Prometheus job at `192.168.0.235:7770` over plain LAN routing (the netavark
|
||||
published-port quirk is same-host only). The boot ledger — the referee for every shape number
|
||||
above — is in the container log (`podman logs frank-archon`)
|
||||
Dankclaw Prometheus job at `192.168.0.235:7770` (15 s interval) over plain LAN routing (the
|
||||
netavark published-port quirk is same-host only). **Latency lives under `vllm:`, cadence under
|
||||
`radiance:`** — TTFT / inter-token / per-output-token / e2e / decode-time histograms and the
|
||||
running/waiting gauges are `vllm:*` with no radiance-native equivalent, so a `radiance:`-only
|
||||
query misses every latency answer. The step-phase counters are all scraped:
|
||||
`engine_steps{,_decode,_mixed,_prefill,_held}_total`, `engine_step_seconds{,_decode}_total`,
|
||||
`engine_prefill_chunks_capped_total`, `prefill_tokens_total`, `decode_tokens_per_second`,
|
||||
`prefill_tokens_per_second`, `prefix_hit_cut_tokens_total`, `http_queue_depth`. Two holes: the
|
||||
engine's own step-detail histograms (`prefill_steps_duration`, `prefill_step_tokens`,
|
||||
`token_queue_wait`) are exported but reach no target, and the **arena / expert slab / heat engine /
|
||||
prefill stager have no metric at all** — that half of every law above is read from the boot ledger,
|
||||
`/stats` and `/diagnostics`, never from a graph. The boot ledger — the referee for every shape
|
||||
number here — is in the container log (`podman logs frank-archon`);
|
||||
`/home/dank/logs/frank_archon.log` is where the serve script redirects `podman run`.
|
||||
|
||||
## Files
|
||||
|
||||
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