frank-default-large: verify v2 main on build-qwen38 — flash-attn off required, MTP draft incompatible (ngram-mod fallback)
- Main model (v2 joined PLE layout, sha256 1e4160ca…) loads and serves on build-qwen38 only with --flash-attn off: the QSA indexer path calls ggml_fill on the F16-cast kq mask and aborts graph build (GGML_ASSERT F32 at ggml.c:5371). Verified live: model loaded, health 200, real completion. - MTP draft head (agentionai FAST, 2.28 GiB) does not load on this binary: qwen4exp loader requires full per-layer blk.<il>.hc_attn_norm.weight, head carries only blk.48. Third confirmation (EasiiX Q8_0 + agentionai FAST vs kingjones STRIX_LEAN previously, now own-matched pair). Spec decoding runs ngram-mod only; head retained for a future compatible build. - FLASH_ATTN=off and SPEC_TYPE=ngram-mod wired through env + serve script; runbook and AGENTS.md updated with the verified constraints.
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| Target | Runtime | Service | Model | Port |
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| Dankserver | llama.cpp (upstream b10121) | frank-default-small | HauhauCS Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-Uncensored-Aggressive Q6_K_P + ngram-mod, 36 MoE experts on CPU | 7770 |
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| Dankserver | llama.cpp (upstream b10121) | frank-default-small | HauhauCS Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-Uncensored-Aggressive Q6_K_P + ngram-mod, 36 MoE experts on CPU | 7770 |
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| Dankclaw | charlie12345/ROCmFPX llama.cpp (build-qwen38) | frank-default-large | agentionai Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix (87 GiB Q4_0_ROCMFP4_FAST, per-head PLE in GGUF) + own MTP draft head (ROCmFP4-FAST), 262K context / 1 slot, reasoning on | 7770 |
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| Dankclaw | charlie12345/ROCmFPX llama.cpp (build-qwen38) | frank-default-large | agentionai Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix (87 GiB Q4_0_ROCMFP4_FAST, PLE joined table in v2 GGUF), ngram-mod spec (MTP head on disk, incompatible with this build), 262K context / 1 slot, reasoning on | 7770 |
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History: the 2026-08-17 redo retired the pipeline-parallel split and the
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History: the 2026-08-17 redo retired the pipeline-parallel split and the
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FastFlowLM NPU endpoint. The 2026-08-18 swap retired the vLLM service on
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FastFlowLM NPU endpoint. The 2026-08-18 swap retired the vLLM service on
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merged). The model is a 56B MoE (512 experts, 10 used), 48 layers (12 attn +
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merged). The model is a 56B MoE (512 experts, 10 used), 48 layers (12 attn +
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36 SSM, full_attention_interval=4), QSA indexer (4 heads, top_k=2048),
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36 SSM, full_attention_interval=4), QSA indexer (4 heads, top_k=2048),
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hyper-connections (count=4, low_rank=320), PLE (layer 1). The 51.2 B-parameter
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hyper-connections (count=4, low_rank=320), PLE (layer 1). The 51.2 B-parameter
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n-gram table is split per head INSIDE the single GGUF — fully VRAM-resident,
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n-gram table is a single joined tensor in the `v2/` GGUF we serve (the root
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no sidecar, no `--ngram-on-disk`. The model's own MTP draft head
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`-ple16` per-head split requires the LaurentZuijdwijk Vulkan fork and aborts
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this loader's `GGML_ASSERT(qwen4exp is missing the PLE n-gram table)`) — fully
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VRAM-resident, no sidecar, no `--ngram-on-disk`. The model's own MTP draft head
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(`agentionai/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MTP-ROCmFP4-FAST-GGUF`, 2.28 GiB, ROCmFP4-FAST
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(`agentionai/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MTP-ROCmFP4-FAST-GGUF`, 2.28 GiB, ROCmFP4-FAST
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quant matched to target, ~66% draft acceptance) drives speculative decoding
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quant matched to target) is on disk but does **not** load on this binary
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at depth 3; vision tower (f16) ships as mmproj/. It runs 262144 context / 1
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(loader requires a full per-layer `blk.<il>.hc_attn_norm.weight` set; the head
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carries only `blk.48`) — speculative decoding runs ngram-mod only. Vision
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tower (f16) ships as mmproj/. It runs 262144 context / 1
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slot, b 4096 / ub 4096, t 16 / tb 16, f16 KV cache, `--fit off` (auto-fit
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slot, b 4096 / ub 4096, t 16 / tb 16, f16 KV cache, `--fit off` (auto-fit
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segfaults on qwen4exp hyper-connection config), and reasoning on (Sharp
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segfaults on qwen4exp hyper-connection config), `--flash-attn off` (required:
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fa on aborts graph build on the QSA indexer path — F32 `ggml_fill` on the F16
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kq mask, ggml.c:5371), and reasoning on (Sharp
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template, budget -1, `--reasoning-format deepseek`; chat kwargs keep
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template, budget -1, `--reasoning-format deepseek`; chat kwargs keep
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`preserve_thinking` + `preserve_reasoning`). Env
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`preserve_thinking` + `preserve_reasoning`). Env
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`scripts/frank-default-large.env`, serve `scripts/serve-frank-large.sh`.
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`scripts/frank-default-large.env`, serve `scripts/serve-frank-large.sh`.
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**Serving status (2026-08-29):** deployed the agentionai ROCmFP4-FAST imatrix
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**Serving status (2026-08-29):** deployed the agentionai ROCmFP4-FAST imatrix
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model with its own matched MTP draft head, replacing the jcbtc CIRU v1.1
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model (v2 joined PLE layout), replacing the kingjones STRIX and jcbtc CIRU v1.1
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deployment (ciru-ai runtime). The 2026-08-28 failure of this head on the
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deployments. The own-matched MTP draft head does NOT load on build-qwen38 —
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kingjones STRIX_LEAN model (`missing tensor blk.0.hc_attn_norm.weight`) was a
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verified against the v2 main itself (`missing tensor blk.0.hc_attn_norm.weight`),
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cross-vendor pairing problem — the head carries the hyper-connection norm
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third confirmation (EasiiX Q8_0 + agentionai FAST vs STRIX_LEAN earlier). The
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tensor (`blk.48.hc_attn_norm.weight`) and works against its own main file.
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head stays on disk for a future compatible binary.
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Runbook:
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Runbook:
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[serverAppConfigs-docs/LLM/agentionai-fast-imatrix.md](serverAppConfigs-docs/LLM/agentionai-fast-imatrix.md).
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[serverAppConfigs-docs/LLM/agentionai-fast-imatrix.md](serverAppConfigs-docs/LLM/agentionai-fast-imatrix.md).
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#
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#
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# Model: Qwen3.8-Flash-Next base (qwen4exp MoE: 512 experts / 10 used,
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# Model: Qwen3.8-Flash-Next base (qwen4exp MoE: 512 experts / 10 used,
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# 48 layers = 12 attention + 36 SSM, QSA indexer, hyper-connections, PLE
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# 48 layers = 12 attention + 36 SSM, QSA indexer, hyper-connections, PLE
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# at layer 1) quantized Q4_0_ROCMFP4_FAST imatrix-calibrated, 87.06 GiB,
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# KNOWN CONSTRAINTS on the charlie12345/ROCmFPX build-qwen38 runtime.
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# 4.23 bpw. The n-gram PLE table is split per head inside the single GGUF
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# 1. FA must stay OFF. --flash-attn on aborts graph build: the QSA
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# (fully VRAM-resident — no ple sidecar, no --ngram-on-disk). Vision tower
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# indexer path calls ggml_fill on the F16-cast kq mask (ggml_fill
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# (f16, lossless) ships as mmproj/. The model's own MTP head (2.28 GiB,
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# asserts GGML_TYPE_F32 at ggml.c:5371). The v2 main loads and serves
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# matched ROCmFP4-FAST quant, ~66% draft acceptance) drives spec decoding.
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# fine with --flash-attn off (verified live: model loaded, health 200,
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# real completion).
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# 2. The MTP draft head does NOT load on this binary. The qwen4exp loader
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# requires blk.0.hc_attn_norm.weight per layer; the agentionai FAST
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# head carries only blk.48 (verified 3x: EasiiX Q8_0 + FAST against
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# kingjones STRIX_LEAN, FAST against this v2 main). Speculative
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# decoding therefore runs ngram-mod only. The 2.28 GiB head stays on
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# disk in case a compatible binary/head pair appears.
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#
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#
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# Profile: card sampling table (temp 0.7, top_p 0.80, top_k 20, min_p 0.0,
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# WARNING: do not name any variable TEMP, HOST, or GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE. The ROCm HIP runtime reads those bare env vars (see the 2026-08-13 TEMP
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# presence 1.5 — non-thinking instruct) mixed with the validated
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# build-qwen38 serving profile: ctx 262144 x 1 slot, b 4096 / ub 4096,
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# t 16 / tb 16 (threads-batch 16 measured best for prefill), f16 KV, fa on,
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# cont-batching, prompt cache + 8 GiB cache-ram + idle-slot cache, 16 ctx
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# checkpoints, --fit off (auto-fit segfaults on qwen4exp
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# hyper-connection/indexer config). MTP depth 3 (n-max 3 measured best on
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# this head; adaptive p-split measured worse, left off). The Qwen-Sharp
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# chat template is kept on purpose (chat-template.jinja): the service keeps
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# emitting reasoning in DeepSeek format for its clients.
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#
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# WARNING: do not name any variable TEMP, HOST, or GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE. The
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# ROCm HIP runtime reads those bare env vars (see the 2026-08-13 TEMP
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# incident). llama.cpp reads --host/--port/--temp as CLI flags, never as
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# incident). llama.cpp reads --host/--port/--temp as CLI flags, never as
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# env vars.
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# env vars.
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# Model package from
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# Model package from
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# https://huggingface.co/agentionai/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-GGUF
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# https://huggingface.co/agentionai/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-GGUF
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# Layout: single main GGUF (per-head PLE table, fully VRAM-resident) +
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# Layout: v2/ joined-layout GGUF (PLE n-gram table as a single
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# mmproj/ vision tower. The MTP draft head lives in
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# per_layer_token_embd.weight tensor — the layout the charlie12345/ROCmFPX
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# /home/dank/models/mtp-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-FAST (already on the host).
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# qwen4exp loader requires; the root -ple16 file splits the table per head
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MODEL_DIR=/home/dank/models/agentionai-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST
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MODEL_FILE=Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-v2-ple16.gguf
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# The MTP draft head lives in /home/dank/models/mtp-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-FAST
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# (already on the host).
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MODEL_DIR=/home/dank/models/agentionai-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST/v2
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MODEL_FILE=Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-v2.gguf
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MMPROJ_PATH=/home/dank/models/agentionai-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST/mmproj/mmproj-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-f16.gguf
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MMPROJ_PATH=/home/dank/models/agentionai-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST/mmproj/mmproj-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-f16.gguf
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--flash-attn on \
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---
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---
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type: reference
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type: reference
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title: agentionai Qwen3.8-Flash-Next ROCmFP4-FAST imatrix on Dankclaw
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title: agentionai Qwen3.8-Flash-Next ROCmFP4-FAST imatrix on Dankclaw
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description: agentionai/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-GGUF served by the charlie12345/ROCmFPX llama.cpp runtime (build-qwen38). 87.06 GiB Q4_0_ROCMFP4_FAST imatrix, per-head PLE in-GGUF, own MTP draft head (ROCmFP4-FAST, 2.28 GiB). frank-default-large.
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description: agentionai/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-GGUF served by the charlie12345/ROCmFPX llama.cpp runtime (build-qwen38). 87.06 GiB Q4_0_ROCMFP4_FAST imatrix (v2 joined PLE layout), own MTP draft head (ROCmFP4-FAST, 2.28 GiB). frank-default-large.
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tags:
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tags:
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- llama.cpp
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- llama.cpp
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- rocm
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- rocm
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# agentionai Qwen3.8-Flash-Next ROCmFP4-FAST imatrix on Dankclaw
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# agentionai Qwen3.8-Flash-Next ROCmFP4-FAST imatrix on Dankclaw
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> **Active since 2026-08-29.** Replaced the jcbtc CIRU v1.1 (ciru-ai runtime)
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> **Active since 2026-08-29.** Replaced the kingjones STRIX_LEAN and jcbtc
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> deployment on the same slot.
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> CIRU v1.1 deployments on the same slot.
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> **MTP draft disabled** — the author's own head does not load on
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> build-qwen38 (see Known issues #3). Speculative decoding is ngram-mod only.
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`frank-default-large` (port 7770) serves
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`frank-default-large` (port 7770) serves
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`agentionai/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-GGUF` (main,
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`agentionai/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-GGUF` (main,
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`Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-v2-ple16.gguf`) with the author's
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`Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-v2.gguf`, the `v2/` joined layout)
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own MTP draft head (`Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MTP-ROCmFP4-FAST.gguf`) on the
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with the author's own MTP draft head
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(`Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MTP-ROCmFP4-FAST.gguf`) on the
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charlie12345/ROCmFPX `build-qwen38` runtime.
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charlie12345/ROCmFPX `build-qwen38` runtime.
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## Why this model
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## Why this model
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- 87.06 GiB at 4.23 bpw — everything on the GPU of the 128 GB unified-memory
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- 87.06 GiB at 4.23 bpw — everything on the GPU of the 128 GB unified-memory
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box, including the 51.2 B-parameter n-gram (PLE) table, which is split per
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box, including the 51.2 B-parameter n-gram (PLE) table. REPO `v2/` layout
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head inside the single GGUF (`v2/` is the joined-table layout; root is the
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is used (joined single `per_layer_token_embd.weight` tensor) because the
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VRAM-resident one and is what we run).
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charlie12345/ROCmFPX loader requires it; the root `-ple16` file's per-head
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split only loads in the LaurentZuijdwijk Vulkan fork (see Known issues #2).
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- imatrix-calibrated on 1540 chunks; +2.48% PPL vs reference on wikitext-2
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- imatrix-calibrated on 1540 chunks; +2.48% PPL vs reference on wikitext-2
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(better than AesSedai IQ4_XS / IQ3_S at smaller size).
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(better than AesSedai IQ4_XS / IQ3_S at smaller size).
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- 18-25% faster prompt processing than a mainline quant of similar size
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- 18-25% faster prompt processing than a mainline quant of similar size
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(356 vs 285 t/s at 2048 tok; 301 vs 256 at 8k depth).
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(356 vs 285 t/s at 2048 tok; 301 vs 256 at 8k depth).
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- Ships the model's own f16 vision tower (`mmproj/`) and its own MTP head
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- Ships the model's own f16 vision tower (`mmproj/`).
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(~66% draft acceptance, mean accepted length 2.97 of 3 at n-max 3).
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- The MTP head is quantized to match the target (ROCmFP4-FAST) — a Q8_0
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- The MTP head is quantized to match the target (ROCmFP4-FAST) — a Q8_0
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draft measured worse on this head family (acceptance + throughput).
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draft measured worse on this head family — but it does not load on
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build-qwen38 (Known issues #3).
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## Runtime
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## Runtime
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@@ -61,7 +65,8 @@ author's own matched MTP head on this binary.
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| Item | Path on Dankclaw | Size |
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| Item | Path on Dankclaw | Size |
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|---|---|---|
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|---|---|---|
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| Main | `/home/dank/models/agentionai-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-v2-ple16.gguf` | 93,484,237,760 B (87.06 GiB) |
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| Main (v2 joined) | `/home/dank/models/agentionai-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST/v2/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-v2.gguf` | 93,484,242,816 B (87.06 GiB) |
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| Main (root ple16, unused) | `/home/dank/models/agentionai-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-v2-ple16.gguf` | 93,484,237,760 B (87.06 GiB) |
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| Vision | `…/mmproj/mmproj-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-f16.gguf` | 904,004,128 B |
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| Vision | `…/mmproj/mmproj-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-f16.gguf` | 904,004,128 B |
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| Draft head | `/home/dank/models/mtp-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-FAST/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MTP-ROCmFP4-FAST.gguf` | 2,444,519,296 B |
|
| Draft head | `/home/dank/models/mtp-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-FAST/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MTP-ROCmFP4-FAST.gguf` | 2,444,519,296 B |
|
||||||
|
|
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@@ -79,11 +84,11 @@ build-qwen38 profile:
|
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|
|
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```
|
```
|
||||||
llama-server \
|
llama-server \
|
||||||
--model Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-v2-ple16.gguf \
|
--model Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ROCmFP4-FAST-imatrix-v2.gguf \
|
||||||
--mmproj mmproj-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-f16.gguf \
|
--mmproj mmproj-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-f16.gguf \
|
||||||
--host 0.0.0.0 --port 7770 --jinja \
|
--host 0.0.0.0 --port 7770 --jinja \
|
||||||
--device ROCm0 --gpu-layers 999 \
|
--device ROCm0 --gpu-layers 999 \
|
||||||
--split-mode none --fit off --flash-attn on \
|
--split-mode none --fit off --flash-attn off \
|
||||||
--ctx-size 262144 --parallel 1 \
|
--ctx-size 262144 --parallel 1 \
|
||||||
--batch-size 4096 --ubatch-size 4096 \
|
--batch-size 4096 --ubatch-size 4096 \
|
||||||
--cache-type-k f16 --cache-type-v f16 \
|
--cache-type-k f16 --cache-type-v f16 \
|
||||||
@@ -94,11 +99,7 @@ llama-server \
|
|||||||
--reasoning on --reasoning-format deepseek --reasoning-budget -1 \
|
--reasoning on --reasoning-format deepseek --reasoning-budget -1 \
|
||||||
--chat-template-file chat-template.jinja \
|
--chat-template-file chat-template.jinja \
|
||||||
--chat-template-kwargs '{"enable_thinking":true,"preserve_thinking":true,"preserve_reasoning":true}' \
|
--chat-template-kwargs '{"enable_thinking":true,"preserve_thinking":true,"preserve_reasoning":true}' \
|
||||||
--spec-type draft-mtp,ngram-mod \
|
--spec-type ngram-mod
|
||||||
--spec-draft-model Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MTP-ROCmFP4-FAST.gguf \
|
|
||||||
--spec-draft-n-max 3 --spec-draft-n-min 0 --spec-draft-p-min 0.75 \
|
|
||||||
--spec-draft-ngl 999 --spec-draft-device ROCm0 \
|
|
||||||
--spec-draft-type-k f16 --spec-draft-type-v f16
|
|
||||||
```
|
```
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
Key choices and deviations from the CIRU deployment:
|
Key choices and deviations from the CIRU deployment:
|
||||||
@@ -107,27 +108,45 @@ Key choices and deviations from the CIRU deployment:
|
|||||||
(same as every Flash-Next deployment).
|
(same as every Flash-Next deployment).
|
||||||
- **`--checkpoint-min-step` removed** — build-qwen38 does not implement it
|
- **`--checkpoint-min-step` removed** — build-qwen38 does not implement it
|
||||||
(verified via `--help`); only `--ctx-checkpoints` is passed.
|
(verified via `--help`); only `--ctx-checkpoints` is passed.
|
||||||
- **No PLE sidecar args** — the n-gram table is in-GGUF (per-head split),
|
- **No PLE sidecar args** — the n-gram table is in-GGUF (joined
|
||||||
not a `ple/` CIRUPLE1 sidecar. `--ple-sidecar`/`--ple-cache-mib` and the
|
`per_layer_token_embd.weight` from the `v2/` layout), not a `ple/`
|
||||||
|
CIRUPLE1 sidecar. `--ple-sidecar`/`--ple-cache-mib` and the
|
||||||
`GGML_QWEN4EXP_PLE_*` / `GGML_CUDA_Q41_MOE_FORCE_J` env knobs are CIRU-
|
`GGML_QWEN4EXP_PLE_*` / `GGML_CUDA_Q41_MOE_FORCE_J` env knobs are CIRU-
|
||||||
runtime-only and are gone.
|
runtime-only and are gone.
|
||||||
- **`--mmproj` active** — vision tower included (f16, lossless).
|
- **`--mmproj` active** — vision tower included (f16, lossless).
|
||||||
- **MTP n-max 3, no p-split** — author measurements: n-max 3 = 32.4 t/s /
|
- **`--flash-attn off` is mandatory.** With fa on, the QSA indexer path
|
||||||
0.612 acceptance, adaptive p-split measured worse (28.4 t/s / 0.468).
|
(layers with attention compression) calls `ggml_fill` on the F16-cast kq
|
||||||
`p-min` stays at the 0.75 default.
|
mask and aborts graph build (`GGML_ASSERT(a->type == GGML_TYPE_F32)`,
|
||||||
|
ggml.c:5371, backtrace through `build_attn_qsa`). Verified live on this
|
||||||
|
v2 main — loads and serves fine with fa off.
|
||||||
- Context kept at 262144 × 1 slot (same as the CIRU deployment; the author's
|
- Context kept at 262144 × 1 slot (same as the CIRU deployment; the author's
|
||||||
quick-start is 32768 but the full window is fine on SVM).
|
quick-start is 32768 but the full window is fine on SVM).
|
||||||
|
- MTP is disabled (ngram-mod only) — see the MTP section below.
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
## MTP draft head
|
## MTP draft head — INCOMPATIBLE on build-qwen38
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
The draft is agentionai's own head for this exact model:
|
The author's own matched head (`agentionai/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MTP-ROCmFP4-
|
||||||
`agentionai/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MTP-ROCmFP4-FAST-GGUF`, 2.28 GiB, architecture
|
FAST-GGUF`, 2.28 GiB, `qwen4exp` arch) does **not** load on this binary:
|
||||||
`qwen4exp` with `blk.48.hc_attn_norm.weight` present (count 1, same shape as
|
|
||||||
the CIRU draft that works). The earlier 2026-08-28 failure of this head on
|
```
|
||||||
the *kingjones* STRIX_LEAN main model (`missing tensor blk.0.hc_attn_norm`)
|
error loading model: missing tensor 'blk.0.hc_attn_norm.weight'
|
||||||
was a cross-vendor pairing problem, not a defect of the head itself. The
|
```
|
||||||
draft carries a 512-expert MoE, so adaptive/long drafting costs real forward
|
|
||||||
passes — keep n-max 3.
|
The build-qwen38 qwen4exp loader requires a full per-layer
|
||||||
|
`blk.<il>.hc_attn_norm.weight` set in the draft (the graph reads all 48
|
||||||
|
layers); the head only carries `blk.48.hc_attn_norm.weight` (count 1 — all
|
||||||
|
three Flash-Next-era heads examined on this fork have that same partial
|
||||||
|
layout). Verified three times, not a cross-vendor artifact:
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
|
1. EasiiX Q8_0 head vs kingjones STRIX_LEAN main (2026-08-28) — failed.
|
||||||
|
2. agentionai FAST head vs kingjones STRIX_LEAN main (2026-08-28) — failed.
|
||||||
|
3. agentionai FAST head vs agentionai v2 main (2026-08-29, this deployment)
|
||||||
|
— failed identically.
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
|
The 2.28 GiB head stays on disk; the moment a binary or head appears that
|
||||||
|
carries the full per-layer norm set, re-enable with
|
||||||
|
`SPEC_TYPE=draft-mtp,ngram-mod`, `--spec-draft-n-max 3` (author-measured
|
||||||
|
best: 32.4 t/s, 0.612 acceptance; adaptive p-split measured worse).
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
## Config files
|
## Config files
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
@@ -152,12 +171,21 @@ loading; `deploy.sh` waits up to 20 minutes (`LLM_WAIT`). Do not kill it.
|
|||||||
|
|
||||||
1. **ROCmFP4 types require the ROCmFPX fork.** Stock llama.cpp and the CIRU
|
1. **ROCmFP4 types require the ROCmFPX fork.** Stock llama.cpp and the CIRU
|
||||||
runtime reject these files.
|
runtime reject these files.
|
||||||
2. **Single 87 GiB file.** Use resumable curl; allow ~10-20 minutes on a
|
2. **Use the `v2/` joined layout, NOT the root `-ple16` split.** This binary's
|
||||||
good link.
|
qwen4exp loader (qwen4exp.cpp:104-108) unconditionally requires a single
|
||||||
3. **MTP head must be agentionai's.** EasiiX Q8_0 and other heads are
|
`per_layer_token_embd.weight` tensor and GGML_ASSERTs "qwen4exp is missing
|
||||||
incompatible with this binary's draft expectations for Flash-Next
|
the PLE n-gram table" against the per-head split. The root file only loads
|
||||||
(hyper-connection norm tensor).
|
in the LaurentZuijdwijk Vulkan fork (`vulkan-qwen4exp-rocmfpx`). The v2
|
||||||
4. **`SVM mapping failed` kernel spam** is a documented symptom, not root
|
file is byte-identical in weights, ~5 KB larger header, loads fully into
|
||||||
|
SVM unified memory (no `--ngram-on-disk` needed — kingjones STRIX ran a
|
||||||
|
50 GiB joined PLE table the same way).
|
||||||
|
3. **No MTP draft head loads on build-qwen38.** The qwen4exp loader
|
||||||
|
requires a full per-layer `blk.<il>.hc_attn_norm.weight` set; every
|
||||||
|
Flash-Next-era head checked (EasiiX Q8_0, agentionai FAST, CIRU) carries
|
||||||
|
only `blk.48`. Spec decoding is ngram-mod only. See the MTP section.
|
||||||
|
4. **`--flash-attn off` is mandatory.** fa on aborts graph build on the QSA
|
||||||
|
indexer path (F32 `ggml_fill` on the F16 mask) — see Serving profile.
|
||||||
|
5. **`SVM mapping failed` kernel spam** is a documented symptom, not root
|
||||||
cause — investigate before blaming memory pressure.
|
cause — investigate before blaming memory pressure.
|
||||||
|
|
||||||
## Citations
|
## Citations
|
||||||
|
|||||||
Reference in new issue
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